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An interesting decision
mporter123:
Min raise pre, the extra 1K won"t be affecting any villains decisions.
I like a c bet now.
30% pot seems plenty to me and again I don"t expect 30% or 50% to change villains decision much if at all. I don"t expect villain to be folding any one pair hands but can get lots of other hands to fold that we are happy to see folding now - broadways, connectors etc. Even a tight villain will be peeling a lot more than just Ax so that doesn"t worry me.
dwh103:
--- Quote from: amcgrath1uk on March 03, 2014, 18:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on March 03, 2014, 17:58:07 PM ---
Aren"t there normally 3 cards on the flop? ;)
Looseish open, but depends how table has been playing. Anyway, regardless of the third card, I cbet whatever size cbet is your norm. I"d guess about 50-60% pot or so.
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I can see 3 cards on mine :/
Red Ace, 2 and 4 clubs
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Strange, I just have the 2c and the 4c on mine (Chrome).
Now I"m looking for it I actually don"t have the Ace of Diamonds card image to click on now I"m making this post.
So with the Ace being there you can cbet towards the lower end of your bet sizing here if your intention is to pot control the hell out of this hand. If however you fancy a chance of a double up, then a half pot cbet gives you two 2/3 pot barrels to get it all in by the river.
If your opponent is the perceptive sort, then varying your bet sizing may not be the best idea - what has your standard been?
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: bear21 on March 03, 2014, 18:31:32 PM ---
I think with the call I would put him on at least an A s so just check for a free card in this instance ,
I think he"s gonna re-raise you so check
What u gonna do if you raise and he jams , so a free card would suit me at this time
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This is scared thinking, A"s are a huge part of our perceived range so we should cbet 100% here, especially so since we have the flushdraw. The problem with the free card option is that our equity takes a big drop on missed turns.
If villain has a tightish 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo+,KQo
we are ~40% on this flop. When we miss the turn that number is almost halved to ~ 22%.
deanp27:
I"d have to have a read not to c-bet here, just don"t need to bet more than half pot, most live players at this level don"t really pick up bet sizes, just bet 8-9k again as a default
amcgrath1uk:
--- Quote from: dwh103 on March 03, 2014, 20:53:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: amcgrath1uk on March 03, 2014, 18:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: dwh103 on March 03, 2014, 17:58:07 PM ---
Aren"t there normally 3 cards on the flop? ;)
Looseish open, but depends how table has been playing. Anyway, regardless of the third card, I cbet whatever size cbet is your norm. I"d guess about 50-60% pot or so.
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I can see 3 cards on mine :/
Red Ace, 2 and 4 clubs
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Strange, I just have the 2c and the 4c on mine (Chrome).
Now I"m looking for it I actually don"t have the Ace of Diamonds card image to click on now I"m making this post.
So with the Ace being there you can cbet towards the lower end of your bet sizing here if your intention is to pot control the hell out of this hand. If however you fancy a chance of a double up, then a half pot cbet gives you two 2/3 pot barrels to get it all in by the river.
If your opponent is the perceptive sort, then varying your bet sizing may not be the best idea - what has your standard been?
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Every c-bet I"ve made has been between 45-65% of pot. There"s 20k+antes in the pot, so approx 24k in total.
--- Quote from: mporter123 on March 03, 2014, 18:50:40 PM ---
Min raise pre, the extra 1K won"t be affecting any villains decisions.
I like a c bet now.
30% pot seems plenty to me and again I don"t expect 30% or 50% to change villains decision much if at all. I don"t expect villain to be folding any one pair hands but can get lots of other hands to fold that we are happy to see folding now - broadways, connectors etc. Even a tight villain will be peeling a lot more than just Ax so that doesn"t worry me.
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I was min betting + a tiny bit every time I raised, therefore the reasoning in my bet sizing. 30% of pot to me seems a little small, as that would be in essence less than my initial raise?
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on March 03, 2014, 18:48:25 PM ---
How much are you planning to bet for him to be jamming?!!?!
I bet out for about 11k and expect him to fold fairly often. If he is a tight player do we not think he raises here with an A? Perfect flop for us to bet at IMO, as we actually have a bit of it.
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That"s pretty much the reasoning I had in mind when I did c-bet.
--- Quote from: bear21 on March 03, 2014, 18:31:32 PM ---
I think with the call I would put him on at least an A s so just check for a free card in this instance ,
I think he"s gonna re-raise you so check
What u gonna do if you raise and he jams , so a free card would suit me at this time
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If he jams in this instance, he"d be betting nearly 200k into a 24k~ + my bet size. He might 3 bet, call or fold, but I would never expect a jam in this instance.
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