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Pre flop decision - Opinions please

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mal666:

--- Quote from: biffa85 on August 08, 2008, 21:13:36 PM ---
Still not keen on the push, too deeped stacked for that, but a raise is definately in order IMO, maybe stick with the original 90k raise and see what happens.

;D

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so you raise 55% of your stack then get moved in on. what next?
only if he has AA are u now not getting odds to call.the 90k raise acheives nothing it is essentially the same as pushing yourself you get called/raised by better hands or he folds.
if you have a decent line on his play i would consider flat calling with position to take it from him on the flop or later streets.

biffa85:
a smaller raise is quite often scarier than the allin push.

If he"s holding medium pairs 6-9"s then might well slow him down a bit, if he"s holding small pairs then may well give up - if you push then he is probably calling your allin with both these sets of hands, and bigger pairs 10-a"s his money is all going in regardless of whether you push or smaller raise.

And I did say push blind on any flop, just give him a second chance to fold and will result in him folding some hands that could beat you by the river.

;D

ThinkerJE:
With AA, I think you must re raise.  If you min re raise you are putting 70k+ out of your 170k stack and announcing to the table your hand.  The rest will go in on the flop regardless so I would probably stick it all in pre flop and hope he has a lower pair or AK (the only hands he can call with).  With AQ I think you have enough chips to fold and that would be my decision.  You don"t want a call as you will be racing at best and most probably dominated.  You cannot flat call and the move all in is aggressive and may pick up the pot there and then, but it is too risky at this stage for me, and I would wait for a better spot.

Roscopiko:
Well, I went with the push here and he called showing AKs. No help and I was gone.

I was really annoyed afterwards having made, almost identically, this move 3 times previously that week when deep and getting bust on each occasion by a variety of hands.

My main line of thinking was can I fold AQ here or is that too negative if I want to get the chips for a FT and how much respect should I give the 3 bet here.

If I go along the lines of having to play AQ then can I call here with the intention of pushing any flop and will I have enough fold equity if he continuation bets which he will probably do most of the time.

hi_am_chris:
Thinker, the chip leader makes a standard raise first into the pot and he has to have aq beat? with his stack i would expect him to be opening a wider range than that including hands AQ has crushed? Saying that i wasnt playing the game and dont know how frequently he was raising but i would expect he could have possibly any pair, ATs plus  and a maybe even KJ or Kq suited. Dont think theres too much wrong pushing. I dont like flat calling but u have position and could play stop and go which could get rid of a lot of small pairs on the flop even if you miss (not saying thats the best play tho)

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