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Cash game - QQ pre-flop

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kinboshi:
Interesting thoughts, and obviously it"s impossible to know all the nuances at the table from a post on a web forum.

I"ll let a few more people respond before I post what actually happened (not that it"s particularly important, but it"s interesting nevertheless).

Swinebag:
I am no cash player, but I"m bored and free at work so....

call isn"t too bad, but you will need to flop the set to win, assuming the straddlers are along for the ride(I think the implied odds are good for calling here). If you miss then one pair OOP will almost always result in giving the pot up

Folding has to be out of the question, your hand is too strong

Any reraise pretty much committs you to the hand, so the best raise IMO is the shove.

I think just because the SB is tight, it doesn"t mean he cant raise it up with a big range and does not neccessarily have to have AA or KK.

My preferred choice is shove.... If SB has AA or KK, you can always suck out, or you can reload (you"ll get it back off the maniacs) If SB is tight because he"s playing scared (out of his bankroll) he may fold KK to your shove.

noble1:
Posted by: Kinboshi
Everyone folds round to the SB, who raises up to £60.  The SB has been one of the tightest players at the table, and seems to know what he"s doing.  Whenever he"s been involved pre-flop, he"s had a decent hand.  He"s been on the table a while, and knows that the players to act after me have been very eager to call or re-raise with a wide range of cards.

right if i"m reading this right , its no-limit your playing [i ask because i associate straddling with limit poker] and i take it 3 are in the pot when SB raises [is this a re-raise Kinboshi as again i find it confusing when u say everyone folds round to sb]
how much in pot when sb raises ???
anyhows going on what i make of it  :)  trust your read on the sb if he has raised 3 call stations like this chances are he has a big hand looking to get paid off by them,so going by your read QQ is a fold , you cant call it [NOT ENOUGH IMPLIED ODDS IF HE HAS AA OR KK AND YOU NEED SET] look for a better spot in position and play more post flop against the weak players and isolate them when you can..

also change seats and get the loose players to your right !!!   ;D

noble1:

--- Quote from: lukybugur on September 08, 2008, 09:29:59 AM ---
SB has 4 guys to act behind him with £31 in the pot already so the £60 is a massive overbet.

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where do you get the £31 already in pot , i cant see that in history ??

:)

lukybugur:

--- Quote from: noble1 on September 08, 2008, 12:08:49 PM ---

--- Quote from: lukybugur on September 08, 2008, 09:29:59 AM ---
SB has 4 guys to act behind him with £31 in the pot already so the £60 is a massive overbet.

--- End quote ---


where do you get the £31 already in pot , i cant see that in history ??

:)

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--- Quote ---As was the norm at that time of the session, my BB was straddled round to £16
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so ...

Seat 9 (SB) £1
Seat 1 (Daniel on BB) £2
Seat 2 has straddled with £4
Seat 3 has straddled with £8
Seat 4 has straddled with £16


--- Quote ---Everyone else folded round to SB
--- End quote ---


So £31, no?

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