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Cash game - QQ pre-flop

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lukybugur:

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on September 08, 2008, 16:42:41 PM ---

--- Quote ---btw i make it £200 and get them in and lose when one of the straddlers can"t let go of A8, SB has jacks.. ;D

--- End quote ---


;D

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Does ;D mean he was right ... ?

WarBwastardo:
I think I"d have a little cry at having to let such a strong hand go and muck.  You can"t just flat call as it risks inviting in the three stooges and once they"re involved you"re set mining (is that what the kids are calling it these days?).

It sounds from the original post like you felt you were beat, so it"s probably a good idea to go with your instincts.  The SB must be expecting a call so to play out of position with nothing sounds far less likely than him actually having a hand that beats your Queens. 

If you were going to play you have to raise to get it heads-up but it"s difficult to find an amount to raise without committing yourself to the pot and giving that this player is ostensibly tighter than an Italian waiters kecks, it"s probably prudent to just give up your hand and the £2 you have invested and wait for a better spot as you"re probably either in a race or a 4/1 dog for your whole stack.

Of course in reality I"d shove it all in, cause I"d almost certainly be drunk and I do that sort of thing.

Chipaccrual:
Definite fold on the assumption that you are going to need to hit another queen to win the hand and with the likelyhood of a few more callers, that is not good odds.

But I hardly play cash, so what do I know.

kinboshi:
Thanks for all the responses.

I folded.

I just couldn"t see what he could have that I was beating, other than JJ and I thought that unlikely.  It was the combination of his tightness and the LAGs still to act that convinced me that he wanted callers or even better for him, raisers.

If he"d bet £30 or less, I might have been tempted to call and set-mine, knowing that I could stack him if he did indeed have AA or KK - and hopefully I"d have another couple of passengers along for the ride.

But with the size of his bet and the size of the stacks at the table, I just didn"t think I could call.  So it was either a re-raise, or a fold.  A re-raise would see me committed, so it would have to be a shove really.

I just thought that it was too likely that he had me crushed, and looking back I think that I"d put him on too narrow a range - he might have done the same with TT or JJ.

Anyway, I did fold.  UTG+1 called.  The flop came 9-high, and the SB bet out and UTG+1 folded. 

SB showed kc kh.

I wanted to get other"s opinions to see if I just got lucky, or if my reasoning was sound.  I think it was a bit of both.

AMRN:
yay i said fold (not sure I would have actually folded at the table though, but easy to make the play on a forum!)

Of course, if you had played along, the river was going to be a Q!!

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