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WCOAP 2017 - Discussion
Paulie_D:
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--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 04, 2017, 16:12:43 PM ---
Frankly, I believe it"s been APAT's experience Stud games take too long and aren"t well supported....or at least don"t generate enough interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
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Well they definitely won"t be well supported this year, so if that"s the criteria, they won"t be in next year either.
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Fair enough but my second point applies though, I believe.
--- Quote ---...or at least don"t generate **enough** interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
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These are long comps and, from memory, the number of players able & willing to play them was relatively small. Usually in the 30-40 range again, from memory so I may be off on that.
Certainly, there"s an argument to be made for them but other games, Chinese / Crazy Pineapple / Mixed (ROE NLHE/PLO) seem to be more popular at present, and with an extensive schedule to neogotiate with Grosvenor I guess something had to give.
I suppose we"ll see how popular the alternatives actually are. If they aren"t as supported as is hoped, who knows, we might be able to persuade Tom to try the Stud again next year.
I hope so...I like Stud too.
Sugar_Free:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 05, 2017, 13:05:30 PM ---
--- Quote ---...or at least don"t generate **enough** interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
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These are long comps and, from memory, the number of players able & willing to play them was relatively small. Usually in the 30-40 range again, from memory so I may be off on that.
Certainly, there"s an argument to be made for them but other games, Chinese / Crazy Pineapple / Mixed (ROE NLHE/PLO) seem to be more popular at present, and with an extensive schedule to neogotiate with Grosvenor I guess something had to give.
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I agree with most of that until the last bit. Yes, there"s no room for Stud or Razz, but there"s also no first Monday or Tuesday.
KarmaDope:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 05, 2017, 13:05:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on January 05, 2017, 10:37:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 04, 2017, 16:12:43 PM ---
Frankly, I believe it"s been APAT's experience Stud games take too long and aren"t well supported....or at least don"t generate enough interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
--- End quote ---
Well they definitely won"t be well supported this year, so if that"s the criteria, they won"t be in next year either.
--- End quote ---
Fair enough but my second point applies though, I believe.
--- Quote ---...or at least don"t generate **enough** interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
--- End quote ---
These are long comps and, from memory, the number of players able & willing to play them was relatively small. Usually in the 30-40 range again, from memory so I may be off on that.
Certainly, there"s an argument to be made for them but other games, Chinese / Crazy Pineapple / Mixed (ROE NLHE/PLO) seem to be more popular at present, and with an extensive schedule to neogotiate with Grosvenor I guess something had to give.
I suppose we"ll see how popular the alternatives actually are. If they aren"t as supported as is hoped, who knows, we might be able to persuade Tom to try the Stud again next year.
I hope so...I like Stud too.
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Feel the need to point this out from earlier in the thread:
--- Quote from: KarmaDope on November 20, 2016, 19:53:49 PM ---
Why have the Stud and Razz tournaments been dropped yet the OFC and Antes Only left in - when Razz scored more runners than Antes Only and Stud more than OFC last year?
I know from Social Media that there are a few unhappy about this, not just me.
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Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on January 05, 2017, 13:28:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 05, 2017, 13:05:30 PM ---
--- Quote ---...or at least don"t generate **enough** interest to make it worthwhile putting them on.
--- End quote ---
These are long comps and, from memory, the number of players able & willing to play them was relatively small. Usually in the 30-40 range again, from memory so I may be off on that.
Certainly, there"s an argument to be made for them but other games, Chinese / Crazy Pineapple / Mixed (ROE NLHE/PLO) seem to be more popular at present, and with an extensive schedule to neogotiate with Grosvenor I guess something had to give.
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I agree with most of that until the last bit. Yes, there"s no room for Stud or Razz, but there"s also no first Monday or Tuesday.
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I"m sure that had more to do with Grosvenor"s operational requirements than APAT's willingness for the event....but who knows?
MintTrav:
First I"ve heard of Stud not getting support. In fact, I know it"s not true from bitter experience. In 2015, I left work early and travelled from Portsmouth to Aspers for the Stud, but wasn"t allowed to play because the cap had been reached. Any lack of numbers for Stud has been due to the caps imposed.
On the other hand, there are several mixed-games players opposed to the inclusion of OFC. There is a vocal group who want it, but there are many who don"t like it and don"t think it has a place, especially at the expense of Stud or Razz (or even on its own merits).
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