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IrishTom:

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Is the reg fee on #13 PLO a misprint? £50 + £6 the correct amount?

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Unlikely, its a 2 day event hence extra rake

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Is the reg fee on #13 PLO a misprint? £50 + £6 the correct amount?

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Hi Simon, yes it"s correct... Last year Grosvenor introduced a min fee of £6 for events.  I"ve even seen £10+£6 (rebuy admittedly!)...

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Actually, my mistake... #13 PLO is £50+£10 - as it"s a 2 day event.

However, others ARE correctly listed as £50+£6 (1 day events).


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I hope it"s going to be a better structure than last year, preferably more like the previous year.

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What was wrong with last year"s Matt?

(bearing in mind 2015 was a 15k+15k Double Chance - this is not a DC)


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Wasn"t it something like 15 or 20 minute blinds for the first 15 levels or similar? Just seemed very rushed like it was shoehorned into the schedule. Good to see 20k and 30 mins this year.

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Yes, you"re right:

15k Stack - 20 Min L1 - L13, 30 Min L14+

A reason for everything of course... a simple case of schedule planning... so yes, agree it"s good we are able to increase from 15k to 20k with 30 mins throughout this year.

The possibility of playing PLO8 or Main Event D2 was the only reason we didn"t increase the clock on PLO Day 2 beyond 30 mins - anyone making Day 2 of PLO should be able, if wished, to take part in the PLO8 the same day (late reg included), if they haven"t qualified for the Main Event Day 2 - you"ll just have to wrap up the PLO super quick time! 



MintTrav:
The guys have done a super job of planning the Series, as always.

One event I think may struggle, though, is the Antes-Only on Wednesday.

Wednesday will be the most thinly attended day anyway. Even the HORSE may struggle, but early attenders that day are likely to be there for that. Not many are likely to make a special effort to get there just for the Antes-Only. Most Hold'em specialists will just show up for the Shootout and, due to the limit format of HORSE, few players will be eliminated from that in time to join the AO.

I would suggest that swapping the starting times of the Shootout and Antes-Only might work better. People would show up for the Shootout and the majority would be eliminated in time for the AO, and would then play that. Perhaps even putting the Shootout on first and the HORSE second would allow knockouts to drop into the HORSE, whereas there won"t be knockouts from the HORSE in time for the Shootout.

IrishTom:

--- Quote from: MintTrav on January 23, 2017, 12:27:56 PM ---
The guys have done a super job of planning the Series, as always.

One event I think may struggle, though, is the Antes-Only on Wednesday.

Wednesday will be the most thinly attended day anyway. Even the HORSE may struggle, but early attenders that day are likely to be there for that. Not many are likely to make a special effort to get there just for the Antes-Only. Most Hold'em specialists will just show up for the Shootout and, due to the limit format of HORSE, few players will be eliminated from that in time to join the AO.

I would suggest that swapping the starting times of the Shootout and Antes-Only might work better. People would show up for the Shootout and the majority would be eliminated in time for the AO, and would then play that. Perhaps even putting the Shootout on first and the HORSE second would allow knockouts to drop into the HORSE, whereas there won"t be knockouts from the HORSE in time for the Shootout.

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I totally agree John.

When I originally looked at this day, the AO will take around 10 hours to complete so a 6pm start would drag it on too late.  One thing we"ve tried to do this year, in tandem with the venue, is not have TOO LATE finishes... we"ve had 4am, 5am and even 6am completion times before, and I was very keen to try and avoid that scenario overall... with a 6pm AO start time, I"d guestimate a completion around 4am... the shootout allows for a 1am ish finish if it starts at 6pm.

However, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, as I do agree with all your points and maybe a one-off 4am finish would be better than the negative sides if we don"t change it... so I"ll re-look at that.

Paulie_D:

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The possibility of playing PLO8 was the only reason we didn"t increase the clock on PLO Day 2 beyond 30 mins - anyone making Day 2 of PLO should be able, if wished, to take part in the PLO8 the same day (late reg included)


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Fully approve....I definitely want to play both.

Paulie_D:
Tom,

Would I be right in thinking early buy-in via Grosvenor is likely to go live soon after Edinburgh...if not before?

I"d like to get some markers down as early as possible since I have some cash on the account.

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