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WCOAP 2017 - Discussion
IrishTom:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on January 23, 2017, 13:08:27 PM ---
Tom,
Would I be right in thinking early buy-in via Grosvenor is likely to go live soon after Edinburgh...if not before?
I"d like to get some markers down as early as possible since I have some cash on the account.
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You would be right Paulie... as if anyone doubted that!
IrishTom:
--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 23, 2017, 12:43:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: MintTrav on January 23, 2017, 12:27:56 PM ---
The guys have done a super job of planning the Series, as always.
One event I think may struggle, though, is the Antes-Only on Wednesday.
Wednesday will be the most thinly attended day anyway. Even the HORSE may struggle, but early attenders that day are likely to be there for that. Not many are likely to make a special effort to get there just for the Antes-Only. Most Hold'em specialists will just show up for the Shootout and, due to the limit format of HORSE, few players will be eliminated from that in time to join the AO.
I would suggest that swapping the starting times of the Shootout and Antes-Only might work better. People would show up for the Shootout and the majority would be eliminated in time for the AO, and would then play that. Perhaps even putting the Shootout on first and the HORSE second would allow knockouts to drop into the HORSE, whereas there won"t be knockouts from the HORSE in time for the Shootout.
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I totally agree John.
When I originally looked at this day, the AO will take around 10 hours to complete so a 6pm start would drag it on too late. One thing we"ve tried to do this year, in tandem with the venue, is not have TOO LATE finishes... we"ve had 4am, 5am and even 6am completion times before, and I was very keen to try and avoid that scenario overall... with a 6pm AO start time, I"d guestimate a completion around 4am... the shootout allows for a 1am ish finish if it starts at 6pm.
However, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, as I do agree with all your points and maybe a one-off 4am finish would be better than the negative sides if we don"t change it... so I"ll re-look at that.
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Having looked at this a one-off 4am finish seems outweighed by the advantage of moving the Shootout to a noon start, so we"ll be amending the schedule for Wed as follows:
#6 12:00 Shootout Championship (8k/20 min) £50+£6
#7 14:00 HORSE Championship (8k/30 min) £50+£6
#8 18:00 Antes Only Championship (10k/30/20 min) £50+£6
John, thanks for taking the time to think these things through, and letting us know your thoughts - much appreciated.
We expect the Online Holding Tanks to go live within the next week, and Eventbrite "reserve a seat" will be released alongside, with a Full Player Briefing.
CW86:
--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 26, 2017, 19:33:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: IrishTom on January 23, 2017, 12:43:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: MintTrav on January 23, 2017, 12:27:56 PM ---
The guys have done a super job of planning the Series, as always.
One event I think may struggle, though, is the Antes-Only on Wednesday.
Wednesday will be the most thinly attended day anyway. Even the HORSE may struggle, but early attenders that day are likely to be there for that. Not many are likely to make a special effort to get there just for the Antes-Only. Most Hold'em specialists will just show up for the Shootout and, due to the limit format of HORSE, few players will be eliminated from that in time to join the AO.
I would suggest that swapping the starting times of the Shootout and Antes-Only might work better. People would show up for the Shootout and the majority would be eliminated in time for the AO, and would then play that. Perhaps even putting the Shootout on first and the HORSE second would allow knockouts to drop into the HORSE, whereas there won"t be knockouts from the HORSE in time for the Shootout.
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I totally agree John.
When I originally looked at this day, the AO will take around 10 hours to complete so a 6pm start would drag it on too late. One thing we"ve tried to do this year, in tandem with the venue, is not have TOO LATE finishes... we"ve had 4am, 5am and even 6am completion times before, and I was very keen to try and avoid that scenario overall... with a 6pm AO start time, I"d guestimate a completion around 4am... the shootout allows for a 1am ish finish if it starts at 6pm.
However, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, as I do agree with all your points and maybe a one-off 4am finish would be better than the negative sides if we don"t change it... so I"ll re-look at that.
--- End quote ---
Having looked at this a one-off 4am finish seems outweighed by the advantage of moving the Shootout to a noon start, so we"ll be amending the schedule for Wed as follows:
#6 12:00 Shootout Championship (8k/20 min) £50+£6
#7 14:00 HORSE Championship (8k/30 min) £50+£6
#8 18:00 Antes Only Championship (10k/30/20 min) £50+£6
John, thanks for taking the time to think these things through, and letting us know your thoughts - much appreciated.
We expect the Online Holding Tanks to go live within the next week, and Eventbrite "reserve a seat" will be released alongside, with a Full Player Briefing.
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Excellent, well done Apat!
peripheraldecision:
What sort of finish time are we looking at for 8-game Day 1? I see we"re back for 1300 the following day if we make the final so I would like to know what sort of sleeping time we"re going to be allowed if I or one of my mates get to that stage ;D
I"m already thinking about hotels and train tickets and trying to figure out what"s best, plus I have to sort out days off with work because we have Phase 1"s for the £6m GTD PartyPoker MILLIONS tournament (I work at Dusk Till Dawn as a dealer).
I know one or two said they"d be up for cash games of HORSE/8-game perhaps on the Monday/Tuesday between the HORSE and the 8 game comps so I"m wondering whether I should book a hotel from the 8th till the 13th, go home on the Thursday and deal Phase 1s for the rest of the week :P
Tbh I"m really up for playing two monster sessions of mixed game cash on the Monday Tuesday and possibly on the Saturday/Sunday depending on how I get on in these mixed game comps!
If I can build enough interest I will book the 5 days in a hotel, and if not, I can skip the Monday Tuesday and come back to Nottingham and go back on the Wednesday.
Bear in mind I"ve got a fair few fellow dealers coming up to play these games with me so we"ll not be short of players.
What"s the best solution?
IrishTom:
--- Quote from: peripheraldecision on January 30, 2017, 07:31:04 AM ---
What sort of finish time are we looking at for 8-game Day 1? I see we"re back for 1300 the following day if we make the final so I would like to know what sort of sleeping time we"re going to be allowed if I or one of my mates get to that stage ;D
I"m already thinking about hotels and train tickets and trying to figure out what"s best, plus I have to sort out days off with work because we have Phase 1"s for the £6m GTD PartyPoker MILLIONS tournament (I work at Dusk Till Dawn as a dealer).
I know one or two said they"d be up for cash games of HORSE/8-game perhaps on the Monday/Tuesday between the HORSE and the 8 game comps so I"m wondering whether I should book a hotel from the 8th till the 13th, go home on the Thursday and deal Phase 1s for the rest of the week :P
Tbh I"m really up for playing two monster sessions of mixed game cash on the Monday Tuesday and possibly on the Saturday/Sunday depending on how I get on in these mixed game comps!
If I can build enough interest I will book the 5 days in a hotel, and if not, I can skip the Monday Tuesday and come back to Nottingham and go back on the Wednesday.
Bear in mind I"ve got a fair few fellow dealers coming up to play these games with me so we"ll not be short of players.
What"s the best solution?
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Hi Adam, I guestimate the 8-Game will complete circa 11pm, and the venue will be able to have dealers available for mixed cash games throughout Monday and Tuesday - would be great if those who wish to play these extensively on either/both days could confirm so I can ensure we have at least the min dealers from around noon each day I would suggest... ?
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