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noble1:
Jon MW:
Aren"t they just further examples where I"ve admitted I got things wrong?
And that I don"t ever assert that I ...
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 11, 2008, 16:51:28 PM ---
... think (I) played this hand %100 correctly ...
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My other point was that you seem to put a lot of faith in how players generally play, and what hand ranges they are generally on.
Do you really think that the observations of the person who actually played the tournament against those opponents might still have a little bit of extra information available to place people on hands?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 11, 2008, 17:21:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 11, 2008, 13:46:27 PM ---
...
if you are assuming that your opponent has put you on a flush draw WHY does he only min raise ???
...
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.. i will in future try to pass what knowledge and perspective i have to someone who wants to discuss there hands ,, lesson learnt...
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And you are good at explaining things.
Like this for example - as I said, this should have been the clue for me to pick up on, but I didn"t.
noble1:
my stats on full tilt poker
MTT MTT SNG HU Satellite Overall
Winnings: $149,613.06 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $149,613.06
Biggest Cash: $132,787.50 Average Cash: $14,961.31
Wins: 2 2.70% Return on Investment: 427%
Seconds: 1 1.35% Avg. Finish: 44/100
Thirds: 0 0.00% Avg. Expectation:
Top Three Rate: 4.05% Avg. Field Size: 1,198
Final Tables: 4 5.41% Avg. Buyins Won:
Cashes: 10 13.51%
Total Played: 74
my cashes are based on big field mtts 600+ official poker rankings has me at 22% combined but my sng single table stats skew the figures........
the reason i put faith into the way i would read someones elses hand history is that generally i"m not far off ,, and as i am working with a friend who is playing a lot of $1 to $2 mtts and i"m going through all there hand histories on my hand replayer just of late, i am quite tuned in to how a lot of these players are playing there hands..
It is amazing how many make similar plays or is it?? because they observe others at this level making plays and getting away with it , unfortunately they start to mimic those plays weather they correct or not and there overall poker game basics are fundamentally flawed....
Solid abc poker with good reading skills are the only skills needed really at the micro levels, if you go beyond this at the lower level buy ins it does not in my opinion help you develop sound fundamentals which you need as a base to go up through the higher levels.. once you have these in mtts [cash is a different beast] i hope to develop my friends poker armory as his game as a whole develops as he does have good poker instincts, they just need reigning in sometimes lol ........
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 11, 2008, 18:25:05 PM ---
my stats on full tilt poker
MTT MTT SNG HU Satellite Overall
Winnings: $149,613.06 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $149,613.06
Biggest Cash: $132,787.50 Average Cash: $14,961.31
Wins: 2 2.70% Return on Investment: 427%
Seconds: 1 1.35% Avg. Finish: 44/100
Thirds: 0 0.00% Avg. Expectation:
Top Three Rate: 4.05% Avg. Field Size: 1,198
Final Tables: 4 5.41% Avg. Buyins Won:
Cashes: 10 13.51%
Total Played: 74
my cashes are based on big field mtts 600+ official poker rankings has me at 22% combined but my sng single table stats skew the figures........
the reason i put faith into the way i would read someones elses hand history is that generally i"m not far off ,, and as i am working with a friend who is playing a lot of $1 to $2 mtts and i"m going through all there hand histories on my hand replayer just of late, i am quite tuned in to how a lot of these players are playing there hands..
It is amazing how many make similar plays or is it?? because they observe others at this level making plays and getting away with it , unfortunately they start to mimic those plays weather they correct or not and there overall poker game basics are fundamentally flawed....
Solid abc poker with good reading skills are the only skills needed really at the micro levels, if you go beyond this at the lower level buy ins it does not in my opinion help you develop sound fundamentals which you need as a base to go up through the higher levels.. once you have these in mtts [cash is a different beast] i hope to develop my friends poker armory as his game as a whole develops as he does have good poker instincts, they just need reigning in sometimes lol ........
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Impressive stats and IMO the willingness of players like yourself to post on the forum can only add to the development of APAT players.
Bear in mind though, that in this particular case, and knowing Jon as I do, this post was aimed at giving everyone a laugh at Jon"s shocking play, which he admitted as much in it"s title.
This is not a very good indication of the abilities of Jon"s play. He is much worse than this. ;D
Keep up the debate and let"s keep it friendly.
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