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noble1:
Jon MW:
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... a lead on the flop of 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot should get the necessary info but you need the discipline to fold/give up and try to check it down if called imo. Result you still have around 1100 chips,more than enough ...
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I mentioned that I missed the fact that this opponent only reraised when he had a hand - the implication was that I should have realised he had a jack from that shove.
This also highlights the problem that mainly taking notes on how players have played hands which have gone to showdown brings - namely, that I had to rely ony my impression of his play because his hands didn"t usually go to showdown.
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 14, 2008, 15:31:58 PM ---
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i cant say i"m in love with your 5x raise jon out of position to a doof who will most likely call you, i think a 3x raise would be much better.Pot size control being my main concern[only got 75bb at start of sng,99 not being a hand you want to create a large pot with],situation,hand strength and the position you have and also along with it only being at the 15/30 level.
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3xbb pf is my standard raise, but my idea that this player might be on the verge of tilt is why I made it slightly larger. It was ultimately a misjudgment about how likely this player would be to call and bet just after losing his big pot shortly before.
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 14, 2008, 15:31:58 PM ---
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So jon theres some of my thoughts , hope they help you. Also if you could think up a good strategy to play the double or nothing sng and had the discipline to follow it what would you do different jon to make a profit long term?
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The problem with the double or nothing SNG is precisely the fact that the strategy hasn"t been formulated yet. In the 45 $10 ones I played before I got a bit bored I saw the general table dynamic veer between tight, loose and trappy as being the way that players seemed to prefer as a strategy.
They were a good way of making money, but they weren"t as profitable as I"d hoped and the depth of boredom they plunged me to just wasn"t worth it. I might go back to them in a while once other people have worked out the way to make them easier to win.
noble1:
i understand you thinking that 5x is a good idea but you are still creating a large pot out of position,you need to think ahead sometimes,take in account stack sizes,position after flop,what plan you have if your bet on the flop is called etc etc again if you were to 3x raise you have some control of the pot size and you dont need to lead out quite as much on a 1 overcard flop to get the info as to where you stand. The opponent had previously took a pot down with KJ with trip kings,he played that hand poorly.Just put yourself into his shoes , he has called a 5x raise and he has just reraised all in to your pot bet on the flop,what could he possibly have that your 99 is beating in which he his willing to go all in with.At best you hope a flush draw 78h you are 55-45 the same against a suited ace , KTh you are a slight dog 48-52 , then you have any jack , 66 , 88.. is it worth fighting for? just be patient you have plenty of chips left...Watch the annette_15 link i put in the advice for new players post,its a $4 mtt with plenty of lucy gucys watch how she uses position,aggression and the discipline to know when to fold.Also note her bet sizes on the flops.
noble1:
i dont know if you have read this post jon but bt"s thoughts on medium strength hands against passive opponents like the ones you encounter a lot in the $50 and below sngs makes good reading.
His thoughts are well written as well as giving you an insight into his thinking process of players.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=1162.0
this post will help anyone think about there game.
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