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Suckouts or justified betting
noble1:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on December 17, 2008, 16:00:18 PM ---
--- Quote ---what were the starting size stacks LongshanksED i only ask because of the -
Seat 2: InspMario ($6,515 in chips)
Seat 3: happyraisy ($19,565 in chips) size of stack here?
Seat 4: Monsemann ($8,750 in chips)
Seat 6: tmacht1 ($260 in chips)
Seat 9: l0ng5hank ($1,970 in chips) [ AS QD ]
Seat 10: keufran93 ($7,940 in chips)
--- End quote ---
this was final table at the bubble
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AQ on the bubble 6 1/2 bb left , grit your teeth and shove , you need chips to win,
so forget all past hands that have lost and play the present and try to double up twice for a push at a high finish
LongshanksED:
finished 3rd overall
and my AQ on the SB was called by 6 10 in the BB who had me well covered
6 10 folp killed me
LongshanksED:
another hand from recently
same format 30 mand SnG
2nd level of 15/30 blinds
Seat 1: l0ng5hank ($1,440 in chips) [ 9S 9C ]
Seat 2: Bellizar ($2,070 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerQ888 ($2,510 in chips)
Seat 4: kalaap ($1,670 in chips)
Seat 6: TomTheEdge ($1,970 in chips)
Seat 8: pontosgr ($380 in chips)
Seat 9: ENIL_PICS_ID ($1,190 in chips)
Seat 10: micka1703 ($1,360 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
TomTheEdge posts small blind ($15), pontosgr posts big blind ($30).
PRE-FLOP
ENIL_PICS_ID folds, micka1703 folds, l0ng5hank bets $120, Bellizar calls $120, PokerQ888 calls $120, kalaap folds, TomTheEdge folds, pontosgr bets $350 and is all-in, l0ng5hank folds, Bellizar calls $260, PokerQ888 calls $260.
FLOP [board cards: TD,9S,2D ]
Bellizar checks, PokerQ888 checks.
TURN [board cards: TD,9S,2D,2C ]
Bellizar checks, PokerQ888 checks.
RIVER [board cards: TD,9S,2D,2C,3S ]
Bellizar checks, PokerQ888 checks.
SHOWDOWN
Bellizar shows [ KS,JD ]
PokerQ888 shows [ QH,AS ]
pontosgr shows [ 3H,4D ]
pontosgr wins $1,275.
again to me this seemed weak to me but with 2 live players to act behind me who flat called my bets i took this as my queue to leave as i still have a good portion of chips left - should i have been heads up when i raised when pontosgr shoved, i"d have made the call but not in a possible 4 way pot
Swinebag:
In SNGs I treat medium pairs as low pairs so may limp to see a cheap flop.
Raising is fine too and folding with these players to act is not weak but preserving chips.
If you had have called you would have been pot committed.
Shoving is not the worst here but at this level 2 overcards are calling you here and you dont want to be flipping this early
Dont be feeling sick about the 9 coming on the flop; the pack is shuffled at random so calling / shoving would not have guaranteed you a winning boat.
noble1:
with the short stack to your left and your position,i"d limp in this situation,if your intrested in sngs and you want to explore icm here is a link that i used a lot when i reviewed my hands.Also if you google sitNgo wizard on there home page you can download a 30 day trial that met open your eyes up to equity and icm and basing ranges of hands to opponents [when i used it i found that from estimating hand ranges that my actual hand reading improved] it is well worth a trial.
http://www.jamorfold.com/icm.html
also an explaination of icm - http://www.chillin411.com/node/7
http://www.chillin411.com/node/8
http://www.chillin411.com/node/9
seems daunting at first but the sng wizard will help a lot
edit - link for wizard - http://www.sngwiz.com/
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