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What is happening to Our APAT?
Cyntaf:
--- Quote from: Cyntaf on February 05, 2009, 23:49:12 PM ---
Hi I would very much like to join in the fun and atmosphere at the weekend.
I am not asking for a seat for anyone else be it 1 of 5 who hasn"t go a seat.
I am not going to say how good or bad i play.
I am definately not offering bribes in the form of percentages.
I am sorry that you can"t make it yourself, on the other hand i can make it.
I will also play, if successful in the spirit intended by the original setup of APAT.
I am very off put by some of the wolves at the door tactics being advertised for all to see. I am hereby proposing that all further seats simply be resigned back to APAT to let Our esteemed team re-distribute any tickets that should become available for the future, in an undoubtedly fair manner, and stop this dragging of APAT down in the sewer.
Sorry if it sounds like a rant, but i really value APAT, it"s team, members and it"s glowing spirit. Let"s keep it that way.
Paul
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APAT:
--- Quote from: APAT on February 05, 2009, 23:56:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cyntaf on February 05, 2009, 23:49:12 PM ---
Hi I would very much like to join in the fun and atmosphere at the weekend.
I am not asking for a seat for anyone else be it 1 of 5 who hasn"t go a seat.
I am not going to say how good or bad i play.
I am definately not offering bribes in the form of percentages.
I am sorry that you can"t make it yourself, on the other hand i can make it.
I will also play, if successful in the spirit intended by the original setup of APAT.
I am very off put by some of the wolves at the door tactics being advertised for all to see. I am hereby proposing that all further seats simply be resigned back to APAT to let Our esteemed team re-distribute any tickets that should become available for the future, in an undoubtedly fair manner, and stop this dragging of APAT down in the sewer.
Sorry if it sounds like a rant, but i really value APAT, it"s team, members and it"s glowing spirit. Let"s keep it that way.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
I appreciate the sentiment but in my personal opinion you are wrong to be talking about "wolves at the door" here. One could suggest that those players are extremely keen to go and are willing to give up a share of any winnings. I"d rather not get into that discussion here as I have addressed what will happen going forward on another thread, I just felt I had to say that I think it is unfair to label players who are working within the published guidelines.
It remains the player"s responsibility to transfer their seat to a willing buyer. APAT will not be taking that over as we"ve done it previously and it was a nightmare to manage across several players.
Cheers,
Des.
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My response elsewhere, above. I think you are way out of line here Paul.
Cyntaf:
Hi Des, how are you. Sorry if any one offended. I know i was, i wonder where it will end. Being devil"s advocate and taking things to the extreme here of course ???
20%, i"ll give 30% etc, wolves "" maybe the wrong choice, but lets say i have a ticket to a future event. In this vein i could put up a seat last minute and let the auctioning begin, hey i could sell it for what 95% and sit at home. Wow what a money spinner that could be...lol.
Ridiculous i know, or is it? who knows only time will tell.
I totally appreciate how difficult managing the seats are, however looking at last season compared to this one. Where will we be next year?
Just have to try and qualify, or clickfest if the pc is working properly at the time.
I sincerely apologise to anyone if they were offended, i can see how desperate they are for a seat. I doubt however they will see my desperation in true strength.
GL All with getting a seat, and even more luck in Walsall if you do.
Cheers
Paul
APAT:
--- Quote from: Cyntaf on February 06, 2009, 00:12:48 AM ---
Hi Des, how are you. Sorry if any one offended. I know i was, i wonder where it will end. Being devil"s advocate and taking things to the extreme here of course ???
20%, i"ll give 30% etc, wolves "" maybe the wrong choice, but lets say i have a ticket to a future event. In this vein i could put up a seat last minute and let the auctioning begin, hey i could sell it for what 95% and sit at home. Wow what a money spinner that could be...lol.
Ridiculous i know, or is it? who knows only time will tell.
I totally appreciate how difficult managing the seats are, however looking at last season compared to this one. Where will we be next year?
Just have to try and qualify, or clickfest if the pc is working properly at the time.
I sincerely apologise to anyone if they were offended, i can see how desperate they are for a seat. I doubt however they will see my desperation in true strength.
GL All with getting a seat, and even more luck in Walsall if you do.
Cheers
Paul
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I"m well Paul and I do hope you get a seat. I suspect you didn"t see my other post relating to this:
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2763.msg47098#msg47098
APAT continually looks at the way we run events, sell seats etc, and I"d like to think we have a good track record of changing procedures if they are not working as intended.
But to put a post up that talks of - bribes, wolves, "spirit intended by the original setup of APAT", sewers, etc - as you did, in my opinion is way over the top.
No offence was taken by me, but I tend to call it as I see it also. I also don"t think we needed the second thread. Have the discussion here or there. ;)
Cheers,
Des.
Cyntaf:
I have responded on the other topic aswel Des, " weather etc".
I never meant to personally offend anybody. You or others may not like what you hear from me. I do not think i am "WAY" out of line.
I am not pleased with what i am seeing, i thought i was entitled to an opinion.
So now i have opened a topic, so that i can get the feel of my fellow Apater"s and what they think about the bartering. Maybe it is just me, but i would still like to hear from other members. Perhaps i am being too soft, or worrying too much.
I still feel, that should i win a seat, then sell it for full face value plus 25% of £3,500 Approx plus a seat at a GUkPT, then it amounts to a free bet with no risks, and i don"t see how that can come under the umbrella of, "Amateur" staus.
Also, i do not agree with asking for a seat for another person. I know some people don"t have access to pc"s, and that there aren"t any regionals.
I again apologise beforehand if i offend anyone personally, that is not my intent.
Welcome all responses.
Cheers
Paul
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