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Making a hero fold???

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deanp27:
you"d probably get more meaningful responses by not posting results, just the action up to your decision.

1. read dependant but as well as having a Q, the flop is good for mid pairs too - i probably don"t fold here.

2. preflop is fine, i probably don"t fold this either in an online SNG but i don"t think folding is terrible with the action as it passes, fairly marginal.

hi_am_chris:
make it 600 to 800 preflop with the blinds 15 and 30? Think the raise he made is fine, could make it anywhere from 150 to 210 ish. That raise shud have got it heads up with the pair and then the flop would have been perfect for you. The guy with a4s shouldnt even be in the hand. Dont hate the fold, could easily be up against a set and even against the flush draw its not the worst place to fold this early on although obviously it turned out to be a good spot for u

bigredders:
i think the first hand i would be calling all day... the short think before calling smacks of a middle to high-ish pair(decision whether to call or raise) if it is kq/qj your just unlucky.
i think the 2nd hand is a good fold for the 1st hand in a sit and go. Over time you would lose more than you win in that position. Even with a flush draw he still has a 30% chance(*ish) of outdrawing you, and thats probably the best case scenario in that position.
i think that sometimes we like to think that we can fold pocket aces and that makes us good players, because we have folded the biggest starting hand(im included in this!). I think in the first hand if he hadnt shown you would still probably think you made a really good laydown to this day!

RioRodent:

--- Quote from: hi_am_chris on February 24, 2009, 13:41:47 PM ---
make it 600 to 800 preflop with the blinds 15 and 30? Think the raise he made is fine, could make it anywhere from 150 to 210 ish. That raise shud have got it heads up with the pair and then the flop would have been perfect for you. The guy with a4s shouldnt even be in the hand. Dont hate the fold, could easily be up against a set and even against the flush draw its not the worst place to fold this early on although obviously it turned out to be a good spot for u

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This [the underlined parts] is exactly my reasoning for going OTT with the raise.

Yes, the raise should have been enough to get HU with the 99... No, the A4s shouldn"t be there at the flop... However, as we can see that is not the case and, in my experince [in low buy-in SnGs] it will rarely be enough to thin the field as intended.

With four limpers in front... get "em in, one of them will call.  :o

tonyj444:
Hand1:  If you"re going to pass to a shove, why bet the flop?  On that sort of flop you are more than likely miles ahead or dead in the water.  Given the flat-call pre it seems fair to eliminate AA/KK/QQ (&JJ?) from his range so what are you hoping he has if you bet and what do you expect him to do with it?  It seems unlikely he will continue with any hands that missed e.g. AJ unless he puts you on air also, in which case he more than likely shoves.  Likewise, it is a tough spot for a hand lik 99/TT to flat call in with lots of overcards to come and a decent chance that you may be holding them so again, a shove is reasonable.  The only hand he is likely to flat-call with on this board is one with a Q in it (although a shove with this hand is also reasonable).  Personally, unless you are both deepstacked I think I"m unlikely to get away from AA on this board.  If I think 77-JJ is in the villains pre-flop calling range then I probably bet around 1/2 pot in the hope it looks like a c-bet from AK.  If he is the sort of player who would reraise with most of the 77-JJ range then I"m probably checking the flop and re-assessing on the turn.  You"re probably less likely to stack villain with this line but give him an extra card to catch-up a bit and more than likely get another bet out of him.

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