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George2Loose:

--- Quote from: xxMAIRxx on March 11, 2009, 08:18:04 AM ---
I would be 3 x BB raising utg.

With the 2 callers and a dangerous flop of 789 a smaller c-bet of, say, 3/4 of the pot as a feeler to see where I am.

With the 2 all ins I am folding, due to the possibility of one of them either already hitting the str8, a set or on a str8 or flush draw.

As George says, need to keep it pretty much standard on how you play weak and strong hands so that they don"t know what range of hands you are possibly raising or c-betting with.

Good fold anyhoo and how did you finish up?

Also, I was in a similar scenario with that flop in Walsall.

Both of us have approx 11k, him slightly more chips than I.

I have TJ on the BB, utg limps in, and I flat check.  Flop comes down 789 giving me the str8.  I check, he bets, i reraise over the top and then I cant recall exactly but I think he went all in there or he reraised again and I put the rest of my chips in.

He shows 77 for a set and I have the str8, 7 to J, turn comes an 8 and thats me out of the tournament.

Afterwards I gave it a great deal of thought, and maybe I shouldve just called his bet post flop rather than re-raising to see that turn card and then if the board hasnt paired, with only 1 card to go make an all in push, my thinking on this tho is there was no way he was folding his set.

What do you think on my play and what went down?  Should I have raised pre, would it have made any difference to the outcome of the hand?  Was I being over keen to call his all in?

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U did nothing wrong in this hand Mary- if you have Aces and are pretty sure someone has KK you want to get the money in pre. You can"t flat call- see if a King comes and fold the flop!

Ur just unlucky the board paired

Honeybadg:
... post flop you are "only" 65/35 ahead if they have 77,88,99 ... so I think you have to give them a chance to fold ... (very unlikely I woud say) ... but give them a chance to ... by going all in ... not just re-raising for me.

L

Mikeyboy9361:
Re Louis hand, I think Mair"s summation is pretty spot on, and I would be following a similar line.
Re Mairs hand at Walsall, major cooler, again I would have been walking to the rail, and then thinking just the same as you Mair, re seeing another card, but realistically I think 95% of us would have done the same.

deanp27:
don"t like pot betting at any stage, just put a normal 2/3rd - 3/4 bet in.

trouble is that flop has semi bluff written all over it and depending on player reads i may check here as i am badly OOP and it is prime for somebody to make a play or have a better hand than me as it is all over a cold-calling range. As played it is a fold.

bigredders:
agree with the pot betting...one of the worst bets you can make it just makes you look weak

everything else was standard

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