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what line of play would u take?
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 17, 2009, 19:34:14 PM ---
Because utg steals are so common now
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"UTG is the new button" ?
Does this mean we can no longer put UTG raisers on a range of hands?
Do you think it is correct to think we are beating UTG raisers range if we have no info on him?
In my post, I thought folding was probably too nitty but thought the standard 3-bet to 60-65K committed you to the hand v players yet to act. A 3-bet to 49K is clever in that it only commits you to the UTG raiser and the shorties.
I just have a problem risking putting myself short stacked after tangling with an UTG raiser. I think this move would be great having watched the table for a bit.
Having said that, my move (a call) is looking weaker and weaker the more I type.
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: AMRN on March 17, 2009, 21:02:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on March 17, 2009, 20:27:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on March 17, 2009, 17:07:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on March 17, 2009, 16:39:28 PM ---
You have the 4th best starting hand. Not sure why everyone"s so keen to fold?
You say you have no reads on the UTG player - so you have to assume he has some sort of hand.
I raise to isolate, and call a shove from UTG.
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hmmmmmm how would you know what to do Dan? This is way past the end of Level One!! ahhhh perhaps therein lies an explanation :)
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Like that is it? Maybe I should have mentioned getting it in behind and then hitting my miracle card on the river?
;)
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I don"t rely on miracle river cards Dan....... I go the whole hog and rely on perfect runner runners!!
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:D
Fair play fella!
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on March 17, 2009, 21:50:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 17, 2009, 19:34:14 PM ---
Because utg steals are so common now
--- End quote ---
"UTG is the new button" ?
Does this mean we can no longer put UTG raisers on a range of hands?
Do you think it is correct to think we are beating UTG raisers range if we have no info on him?
In my post, I thought folding was probably too nitty but thought the standard 3-bet to 60-65K committed you to the hand v players yet to act. A 3-bet to 49K is clever in that it only commits you to the UTG raiser and the shorties.
I just have a problem risking putting myself short stacked after tangling with an UTG raiser. I think this move would be great having watched the table for a bit.
Having said that, my move (a call) is looking weaker and weaker the more I type.
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It wasn"t very strong to start with...
noble1:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on March 17, 2009, 21:50:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 17, 2009, 19:34:14 PM ---
Because utg steals are so common now
--- End quote ---
"UTG is the new button" ?
Does this mean we can no longer put UTG raisers on a range of hands?
Do you think it is correct to think we are beating UTG raisers range if we have no info on him?
In my post, I thought folding was probably too nitty but thought the standard 3-bet to 60-65K committed you to the hand v players yet to act. A 3-bet to 49K is clever in that it only commits you to the UTG raiser and the shorties.
I just have a problem risking putting myself short stacked after tangling with an UTG raiser. I think this move would be great having watched the table for a bit.
Having said that, my move (a call) is looking weaker and weaker the more I type.
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being fairly deep i like to gamble now to try and win the lot or at least get a lot deeper ,at this stage i"m not shy of the odd risk.If utg has me beat i can hit a miracle 2 outer,if i lose i"m happy with 14bb/and my short stack game , one double up and i"m back to where i was..
the 3bet/my position/lack of image line for me is enough to stop most sickos [stacks that cover me]4betting and if they do,i can fold it [no probs ::)]
i also met get everyone to fold...
Mikeyboy9361:
In last nights satellite, I got dealt Js in almost the exact same seating order, but it was fairly early in the tournament. Oh how I did laugh! Anyway, I had been playing some rubbish poker and lost more than 20% of my stack in the first 20 minutes when I was dealt these.
So EP raise, I called, put him on a big ace, and decided to see the flop. Just the two of us saw 3 low cards, and a possible flush draw. EP bet about 2/3 of the pot and I pushed. He pretty insta called ( don"t blame him, I was playing poor) and yee ha the jacks held, and put me in a good spot, was actually CL at the first break.
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