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Satellite or Clickfest?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on March 18, 2009, 12:30:21 PM ---
i pretty much agree with Jons point. We dont want to be going down the virgin festival route.
But mikes point about reducing the expenses is valid.
£100 (the buy in for the main event) is pretty much $140 at the moment, so a $200 win in a sat gives $60 expenses.
I believe the overlay in prize is because BSQ have to account for fluctuations in the value of the pound against the dollar. Surely a prize of $160 would be enough to take this into account and would create a few more seats.
For other nationals (£75 buy in) the satellite prize is $150 where £75 gives $105 dollars. I"d imagine a prize of $120 would cover fluctuations in the money market adequately and would also create a few more seats.
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Wait, I"m in danger of sounding argumentative.
I think you"re right the extra money probably is just to account for currency fluctuations.
But I don"t think you can assume some people don"t appreciate the little bit extra, even if it"s only enough to pay a train fare for example rather than any substantial part of their expenses.
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on March 18, 2009, 12:36:42 PM ---
But I don"t think you can assume some people don"t appreciate the little bit extra, even if it"s only enough to pay a train fare for example rather than any substantial part of their expenses.
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I"m sure they don"t not appreciate the extra money. I"m also sure they would still play the satellites, with no complaints, if the prize was smaller and gave less expenses.
Mikeyboy9361:
In my initial thread I wasn"t actually advocating a 50/50 split, that was just playing Devils advocate in response to Jons first post.
But surely a larger number of Sat seats, where actual poker skill is involved, would be better than the crapshoot that is the clickfest.
Also Jon your argument about not playing on line, so not having those seats available to you are just the same as mine, when unable to make the click fest!
On Thursday, I will be at a big corporate bash in Birmingham, and I will be trying to sneak away at 9pm just to try and fast finger, but I don"t really know if that will be possible.
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on March 18, 2009, 13:53:43 PM ---
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Also Jon your argument about not playing on line, so not having those seats available to you are just the same as mine, when unable to make the click fest!
On Thursday, I will be at a big corporate bash in Birmingham, and I will be trying to sneak away at 9pm just to try and fast finger, but I don"t really know if that will be possible.
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But we"re not just talking about one person and one event. Some people may only be able to qualify by satellite - hence putting them in the same position as those who can only get a seat by the clickfest.
But most of the people who can qualify by satellite can also get in through the clickfest - whereas none of the players who don"t play online can get a seat through the satellite.
Also if you put more seats into the satellites you benefit online players
If you put more seats into the clickfest you benefit live players.
As we are trying to get seats into a live event - if you have to choose one, doesn"t it make sense that you tilt it towards the live players?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on March 18, 2009, 12:30:21 PM ---
i pretty much agree with Jons point. We dont want to be going down the virgin festival route.
But mikes point about reducing the expenses is valid.
£100 (the buy in for the main event) is pretty much $140 at the moment, so a $200 win in a sat gives $60 expenses.
I believe the overlay in prize is because BSQ have to account for fluctuations in the value of the pound against the dollar. Surely a prize of $160 would be enough to take this into account and would create a few more seats.
For other nationals (£75 buy in) the satellite prize is $150 where £75 gives $105 dollars. I"d imagine a prize of $120 would cover fluctuations in the money market adequately and would also create a few more seats.
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My thoughts exactly. $60 overlay for expenses isnt going to help much - it won"t pay for a a hotel room for example. However for every 2 $60 overlays, they could award an extra player a seat - and after all, the reason we play the satellites is for a seat - not to cover expenses.
Would be nice if those who made final table of a satellite where the prize pool only pays 5 seats like last night could be given first refusal in the ClickFest (of course I would say that!)
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