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Swinebag:
Is it just this situation that is a snap call?
would it be a snap call if the button had shoved for say 5K?
what if all 3 stack sizes were the same, say 8K each. Would it be a snap call then?
I ask this because, whilst AQo may be ahead of each individual players range, and is probably still ahead three way. Is it possibly a favorite to lose here?
Is the "easy call" based on the pushing / calling ranges relative to the stacks?
I thought this was an easy fold, but a lot of players, whose opinions I really respect say easy call. My comment was made more out of instinct rather than knowledge or experience, so I"m more than prepared to be educated on this.
bigredders:
--- Quote from: antthecat on March 20, 2009, 10:35:52 AM ---
i was concerned with the button who i thought had ak. i would have folded if it was a heads up situation and why would i risk 3/4 of my stack with a hand that was behind from the start and only needed to improve, i understand why i need to gamble to win tournaments (the money did not concern me) but if i was the first to shove with aq then that is ok but calling an all in is in my opinion a very loose call. if you keep going in behind then you will lose money in the long run(and i would not have earnt a sklansky dollar) and aq is called the doyle brunson for one reason, he hardly plays this hand as he calls it the biggest trouble hand and im not argueing with the legend.
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i think what doyle is getting at, that post flop play, especially when out of position if you hit your ace u never really know where you are. I dont think that means he never plays aq. You say you put him on AK....on what basis? when your new to a table and a short stack shoves, you can only put him on a range, which is huge! (maybe you put him on ak for an excuse to get rid of the hand)
if your folding aq on the big blind to a shortstack shove let me know where your sat in cardiff! :D
antthecat:
i wont be at cardiff my friend. the reason i put the old man on ak is that the first hand i seen he shoved with ak(he showed) so i had to guess i was behind. i know that preflop i could have been so far ahead or so far behind, all i was annoyed about the flack for folding the aq by the others and not bursting the bubble and i thought it was the right fold at the time, i can see that yes its correct to call but it can be correct to fold. next time ill see where the land lies and hope that im not too far behind.
thank you for your opinion, it has been very welcome
bigredders:
people abusing you is obviously uncalled for and it isnt like you laid down aces! you get it alot in such tournaments though a lot of people that think they know everything, yet dont have a clue!
just remember that because a guy shows ak once, doesnt mean he has it again ( a lot of people would show to give you an impression they only shove with premium, which then enables them to shove light)
i wouldnt let the needling get to you.... and congrats on the cash
LongshanksED:
gotta remember AK is still only ace high
take this i psoted a month or so ago
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2898.0
especially in hand 1 where i slated the BB"s raise with AK with a raise and all in behind him
its all about the gap concept
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