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HaworthBantam:
Not sure I agree with the idea of using online competition as a way of settling the issue of who gains entry into live events.
Personally I avoid playing online, for a couple of reasons:
1. I find it boring, and has little in common with live play (contentious ? I"m sure I"ll get a few comments for that one)
2. I have a problem with the PokerStars software - it constantly times out on my PC (no problem with other software, VC, Betfair etc when I was playing online)
A fairer method may be to have regional qualifyers at local casinos of casino groups who have already embraced APAT - live qualifyers for live events, makes much more sense to me......
technolog:
--- Quote from: HaworthBantam on May 27, 2007, 16:41:49 PM ---
Not sure I agree with the idea of using online competition as a way of settling the issue of who gains entry into live events.
Personally I avoid playing online, for a couple of reasons:
1. I find it boring, and has little in common with live play (contentious ? I"m sure I"ll get a few comments for that one)
2. I have a problem with the PokerStars software - it constantly times out on my PC (no problem with other software, VC, Betfair etc when I was playing online)
A fairer method may be to have regional qualifyers at local casinos of casino groups who have already embraced APAT - live qualifyers for live events, makes much more sense to me......
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I would say a mix of live and on-line satellites is the best solution combined with direct buy-ins - in fact just about exactly how they do it now! The allocation of the direct buy-in seats is a bit contentious. I prefer the "click-fest" approach as, having no life, I"m prepared to put everything else aside in the quest for a seat ;D although I will concede a random draw is probably fairer. The only problem with the live sats is replicating the deepstack structure which most of us find so appealing about the APAT events.
One other idea. How about a Grand Final for season 2? Everyone who"s final-tabled either live or online during the season invited to buy a seat for a weekend extravaganza at Dusk Till Dawn - you can have that one for free!
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: furnesspoker on May 26, 2007, 07:49:15 AM ---
As the events are a sell out, why not look at 2 venues for each game, For example - if you were to play in Blackpool you could use Stanleys and the Grosevenor and play the final at one of them, this way you could open up the competition to a lot more people and fill the cardroom on the 2nd day. I know logistics of this isn"t always straightforward but could be worth considering.
Regards
Paul Robinson
AKA LuckyBuggah
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Another option which gets round the competing venues problem is to have 2 "day 1"s" similar to the WSOP main event.
I know this means adding the Friday as well as the Saturday but many players are taking the Friday off work anyway. The Sunday is quite a short day in poker terms so most get home that night. Except of course when in Ireland when I"ll still be drinking Guinness!!
nosey-p:
i don"t agree with a friday start as most people work
i don"t agree with regional qualifiers as it would favor the locals (the closest event as been a 2 hour drive for me)
i would support a system where the on-line regular players get first chance as these are the people who support the APAT regally + it would increase the field. it would cut down on the semi-professional trying to cash in on the add value of a EPT seat (after all it is a amateur tour)
at the end of the day its APAT's fault for being sooooo good (a nice headache for Des to have) lol
:D
Des_D:
APAT has trialled a number of seat allocation methods during season one and the range of opinions in the few responses above, shows what a challenge it will be to find a method that will be universally accepted.
I think it is fair to say, as a live play organisation, that casino tournament play should have a significant part to play in the allocation process. Similarly, we will have a responsibility to our sponsors to allocate a percentage of the seats via their channels. Direct buy in or member draws thereafter? The jury is out and it will be interesting to hear your views here.
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