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Post flop play - How do you play it and why ?
George2Loose:
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--- Quote from: AMRN on March 23, 2009, 14:00:16 PM ---
If you had checked the flop, I suspect there is a high likelihood that he would check behind to see if he can hit his draw for free.... and once the 4th spade hits on the turn, you can easily fold your set. Perhaps sometimes best to check the flop rather than lead out?
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Steve are yo not always saying don"t be results orientated? Don"t u think you are being in this case? Leigh got his money in good- the play with the Ks is pretty bad imo.
Plus the RNG means the turn may not have been a spade if they both check :D
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true its not a gr8 play in hindsight now we know his hand but we dont know how BIG4390 perceived Leigh...
This is not the best textured flop to see when you have top set oop and a tight conservative player behind , if we lead out we rather set him up to re-raise a draw which will commit him or we walk into a made flush or he folds 2 high non spade cards..
So whats the best line with 26bb behind,is it always correct to push our stack on the flop?
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Why don"t you want the money in here when he has the bare flush draw?
noble1:
didnt know i had posted it? anyhows my edited version is above george ...
by the way APAT i hate the black numbers at the bottom any chance changing them to say white?
noble1:
--- Quote ---Why don"t you want the money in here when he has the bare flush draw?
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because we do not what he has due to our position....we are rather hoping he has a draw..i just prefer to see a turn card cheap if possible on this type of flop and re-evaluate ... i"m comfortable with a 20bb+ stack...if the blind levels are about due to rise,i might go with it on the flop...all depends on how the table has been up to now and if i feel i can steal a bit etc etc .... like i said the only times i"m cautious with a set is 1 suited flops,straightening boards or some good conservative player is giving action...
bigredders:
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 23, 2009, 15:18:12 PM ---
--- Quote ---Why don"t you want the money in here when he has the bare flush draw?
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because we do not what he has due to our position....we are rather hoping he has a draw...
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but surely you can"t fold to the possibility that he has a flush, so many people overplay overcards with the nut flush draw...this guy didn"t even have that!
I think the way i see it is that leigh did nothing wrong and the other guy overplayed his hand and got lucky, i really don"t think there is anything else to it?!
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 23, 2009, 15:18:12 PM ---
--- Quote ---Why don"t you want the money in here when he has the bare flush draw?
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because we do not what he has due to our position....we are rather hoping he has a draw..i just prefer to see a turn card cheap if possible on this type of flop and re-evaluate ... i"m comfortable with a 20bb+ stack...if the blind levels are about due to rise,i might go with it on the flop...all depends on how the table has been up to now and if i feel i can steal a bit etc etc .... like i said the only times i"m cautious with a set is 1 suited flops,straightening boards or some good conservative player is giving action...
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noble, you"re overcomplicatiing things. All your doing by checking here is having the player check behind you. If a 4th spade comes down you are very suseptable to losing the pot even if he has AKdd when the 4th spade falls.
Your too shallow here to not consider getting your money in. If he"s flopped the flush- its a cooler and you have outs anyway.
As it is Leigh gets his stack in the middle as a dominant favourite against our opponent who played his hand pretty horrible imo.
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