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check raise or check jam?
mal666:
fwiw here is the hand,took the push route for max value vs clown, he gets there obv put thats not the point. Happy with the action.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/flash/replayer.swf?pokerhandid=473510
deanp27:
fair enough
i think the outcome would have been the same whether you make it 20k or shove. He either reshoves or calls off on the turn.
nh and ul
i think a decent player 3bets his AQs here as well.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on May 05, 2009, 12:51:41 PM ---
check raising is better than leading, which is much better than check calling IMO.
Check/Calling with these hands has merit when you have position, but check/calling and then leading is such a weird line and makes no sense. If he has a draw he gets there for free, if he has Kx and the club comes down it kills your action and you play this hand OOP against 1 or 2 opponents. you may as well lead the pot and try and induce action from Kx or a semi bluff from some sort of draw, or maybe a call from a mid-pair.
If the opponent is bad i like raising smallish to induce him to either call or shove with his KQ/KJ type hands.
FWIW there is no way i ever fold a set on this board whatever the action (rightly or wrongly).
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Do you no think that by playing only the standard prescribed way, you are predictable and therefore exploitable? you say check calling and then leading is such a weird line and makes no sense..... surely in some circumstances that"s a good thing? In this scenario, to a player capable of reading between the lines, our check call may look like a flush draw, then a small turn lead could look like a weak attempt to buy a cheap river, and might induce bigger action.
Swinebag:
I love the check/call then lead the turn. Not because its "correct", but because its a great way to mix up your play and would confuse the hell out of your opponent
mal666:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on May 05, 2009, 15:02:59 PM ---
I love the check/call then lead the turn. Not because its "correct", but because its a great way to mix up your play and would confuse the hell out of your opponent
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but he just flats the lead obv, then we stack off bad on the river when he gets there.
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