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Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on May 10, 2009, 10:33:04 AM ---
£50 Freezeout live tournament.
Blinds 200/400
Average Stack Size = 6.5k
Both Players playing off around 9.5k stack
Player B, UTG raises to 1200.
Player A (UTG +1), holding ad1 kc , raises to 3600.
Folds back round to player B, who ponders, then reraises all-in.
So, it" s back to Player A......................
No real reads on Player B, joined table fifteen minutes previous, chatty, but only limped into one hand.
What does player A do, and what has player B got ?
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Okay, so Player A makes the call.
Player A = ad1 kc
Player B = kh ks
An ace drops on the flop and Player A just has Player B covered and Player B exits the tourney.
What"s your thoughts on both players line in this hands ?
mal666:
Standard
AMRN:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on May 10, 2009, 14:05:52 PM ---
lol at all those who raise fold!!!
You either flat or three bet/call a shove.
Personally with the £50 structure at DTD deffp 3 bet/call a shove
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I don"t think I advocated raise/fold - I said that as played it was a fold, but that I wouldn"t have 3-bet in the first place against an unknown early position raiser.
As per Noble"s post have a plan when reraising, and if the plan is to call a shove, then surely the better move is to shove yourself and put the decision on the other guy to call for his tourney. Of course in this case with KK, it"s kind of irrelevant, but if he had a lesser pair, say JJ, he may well fold the best hand.
George2Loose:
Problem with open shoving Steve is that unless he is very bad he"s almost never calling off with worse.
3 betting here is to hopefully getting him to shove with the lower end of his range.
Also means that if we want to 3 bet bluff in future we have to risk our entire stack
noble1:
--- Quote from: AMRN on May 10, 2009, 19:41:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: George2Loose on May 10, 2009, 14:05:52 PM ---
lol at all those who raise fold!!!
You either flat or three bet/call a shove.
Personally with the £50 structure at DTD deffp 3 bet/call a shove
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I don"t think I advocated raise/fold - I said that as played it was a fold, but that I wouldn"t have 3-bet in the first place against an unknown early position raiser.
As per Noble"s post have a plan when reraising, and if the plan is to call a shove, then surely the better move is to shove yourself and put the decision on the other guy to call for his tourney. Of course in this case with KK, it"s kind of irrelevant, but if he had a lesser pair, say JJ, he may well fold the best hand.
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--- Quote from: George2Loose on May 10, 2009, 19:46:59 PM ---
Problem with open shoving Steve is that unless he is very bad he"s almost never calling off with worse.
3 betting here is to hopefully getting him to shove with the lower end of his range.
Also means that if we want to 3 bet bluff in future we have to risk our entire stack
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i,m ok with both - shove or 3bet...i think we should mix our strong hand lines with shoves and 3bets , although more weighted towards 3 betting...
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