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What do you do ?
duke3016:
--- Quote from: bigredders on May 19, 2009, 00:34:14 AM ---
its a multi way pot on a draw heavy board... i would lead if the board was less draw co ordinated, would imagine i would check fold depending on the action afterwards, early stages in a sit n go no need to go broke on a board like this
if you lead/ check call here what on earth do you do on the turn?
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I am confused -- why get involved == maybe i am wrong -- fold pre - or Lets party and all in
hi_am_chris:
I fold pre, dont see the point playing that marginal a hand from that position with the stacks as they are, chances are as played that somebody as hit the flop harder, kqs def in a lot of players flatting ranges pre (although it is loose against utg raise) along with a few two pair type hands and even 78s. i probably check fold depending on action as i expect to get my money in better, getting the money in on this flop is just a flat out gamble
noble1:
good debate , just adding another factor would time be part of our plan of what to do here..
In terms of time....how many rounds will we get with our current stack,our stack after a cbet fails and our stack after a successful cbet.
The blinds are about to go through Mr KJo and are we waiting for AA here before we play?,also what if the blind levels are soon to increase,how long do we wait for a good situation?
Would these points influence anyones decision making here as well as the pot size...?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: hi_am_chris on May 19, 2009, 00:52:17 AM ---
I fold pre, dont see the point playing that marginal a hand from that position with the stacks as they are, chances are as played that somebody as hit the flop harder, kqs def in a lot of players flatting ranges pre (although it is loose against utg raise) along with a few two pair type hands and even 78s. i probably check fold depending on action as i expect to get my money in better, getting the money in on this flop is just a flat out gamble
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While this is true and a 9 handed table means that you"re even more likely to come against a hand that"s beating you.
The fact that the blinds to stack levels are like this suggests that this is a fairly fast tournament and you really don"t have the luxury of being able to wait for surefire bets.
I"d shove.
Despite Chris"s arguments, you are quite likely to have the best hand. If you don"t have the best hand then a shove might make 1 or 2 hands that beat you fold, but even more likely - if you get called by a better hand you have outs.
If you fold, pre or post flop, it"s not going to be long before you"re forced into an all in or fold pre strategy. ie You might as well make the gamble now before you"re forced to do it in a few hands time.
Marty719:
--- Quote from: noble1 on May 19, 2009, 02:15:01 AM ---
good debate , just adding another factor would time be part of our plan of what to do here..
In terms of time....how many rounds will we get with our current stack,our stack after a cbet fails and our stack after a successful cbet.
The blinds are about to go through Mr KJo and are we waiting for AA here before we play?,also what if the blind levels are soon to increase,how long do we wait for a good situation?
Would these points influence anyones decision making here as well as the pot size...?
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-100% insta fold pre
-check/reevaluate and almost certainly check/fold the flop as played.
-We are not w8n for AA or a good situation at all - we are waiting for a good position. If we had KJ in later position then we 100% raise it. We can open a very wide range from the c/off and button and expect to take the blinds a wide % of the time or win w/ a cont bet. From utg w/ this stack our range shud be AQ+, 1010+ and that is it, esp if the table is quite call happy.
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