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Annette wins WSOPE - World Series of Poker Europe
18-year-old Annette Obrestad wins World Series of Poker Europe Main Event and £1 million
http://www.pokerplayermagazine.co.uk/pokerlife/pokernews/2792/world_series_of_poker_europe.html
yousefian:
i followed my good friend john taba sine thursday and last night john was so unluky not to win the bracelet. He one of the most aggressive players in that tournament, and ran alll over the final table. Even gus hansen told me that he got outplayed by him and called him super-agressive. Thats some feat. In the end anette got the win, but she was very lucky in my eyes. When they were down to three, she got in all in with qj against john"s jj. She spiked a q on the river. And quite often she got a her money in bad. where john rarely did.but hey thats pokerr. but we all know deep down that john was the best player there, and i"m sure we"ll see him up there again soon.
kinboshi:
I"d say that Annette is one of the best tournament players in the world, even at the age of 18.
Everyone needs a bit of luck at the crucial times to win a tournament - you saying that John didn"t have any to reach the final table?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: yousefian on September 17, 2007, 14:28:46 PM ---
i followed my good friend john taba...
--- End quote ---
Do you think you might be a little biased
--- Quote from: yousefian on September 17, 2007, 14:28:46 PM ---
...john was so unluky not to win the bracelet...
--- End quote ---
It is almost impossible for someone to be unlucky not to win (unless it comes down to a handful of HU hands at least).
People have to be lucky to win, not unlucky not to win.
--- Quote from: yousefian on September 17, 2007, 14:28:46 PM ---
...He one of the most aggressive players in that tournament, and ran alll over the final table...
--- End quote ---
There"s more to playing well than just being aggressive. The fact that Annette is known for being aggressive, yet took her time in this final, perhaps shows that a bit more judgement and a bit less aggression was what was needed to succeed?
Can"t be bothered with the rest - that"ll do.
Jon MW:
:)
I couldn"t help myself. I had to check whether my intuition was backed up by statistical evidence.
So I checked the live reporting and found:
In the HU John got lucky 3 times, Annette got lucky 3 times. When and how it happenned is how small the difference between winning and losing is.
(As a side note,on the final table before the HU John had 7 "lucky" hands to Annette"s 3 - so the "very lucky" argument doesn"t quite stack up any way you cut it)
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