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20/20 World Cup
Honeybadg:
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--- Quote from: Honeybadg on June 11, 2009, 23:44:04 PM ---
Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
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agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
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KP bores me on the whole - he unbalances the team - always a side show.
His recent interviews are ridiculous - all about how he doesn"t go to the physio when injured - he knows best - or rather wants to take the IPL money and run ...
Captaincy sideshow
Homesick sideshow
What are we going to get for the Ashes?
L
Logie66:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on June 11, 2009, 23:54:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on June 11, 2009, 23:44:04 PM ---
Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
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agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
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Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
Mikeyboy9361:
Was at Trent Bridge yesterday. The Kiwis were awesome with bat and in the field, okay it was only Ireland ;) but they were terrific. What a let down England were. KP was the only batsman taking the attack to the bowlers ( Louis,, what you on!) So a real disappointment as a spectacle.
20 / 20 is a batsmans game, short boundaries and great wickets, but thats why people like it, everybody loves to see the ball flying to all parts. Collingwood as a skipper I don"t like, but as Logie says captaincy during the game has little impact, the pre match plan is where all the decision making goes on.
Yesterday for example what were Englands plan after posting 111? To win they had to take early wickets, so surely Broad and Anderson should have opened! If they were already resigned to losing then lets try a reduce the net run rate for later in the tournamnent, in which case open with Dimi. I leave you to decide.
Logie66:
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on June 12, 2009, 12:04:13 PM ---
Yesterday for example what were Englands plan after posting 111? To win they had to take early wickets, so surely Broad and Anderson should have opened! If they were already resigned to losing then lets try a reduce the net run rate for later in the tournamnent, in which case open with Dimi. I leave you to decide.
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Got it in one ;D
Honeybadg:
--- Quote from: Logie66 on June 12, 2009, 11:16:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on June 11, 2009, 23:54:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on June 11, 2009, 23:44:04 PM ---
Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
--- End quote ---
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
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Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
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Interesting points - it"s not just a coin flip for me - S Africa defended a very small target against NZ.
Astute bowlers adapt
Batsmen can adapt too ... why apart from Pietersen do the English batsmen get so obsessed with playing square of the wicket?
Don"t get me wrong Pietersen is England"s best player ... but he unsettles the weak around him - when he fails they fail.
He should be the captain - but blew his feet off in a Roy Keane style huff - and someone needs to sort it out - it"s just so tedious to watch.
Mega paid under performers.
England looked good against the despicable West Indies in the Tests - but now look more like a jellyfish.
They rolled over Pakistan (who played terribly).
It reminds me of how England used to be at football ... bumble along ... beat weak foes and crumble against the stronger teams ...
Capello now looks to have it well sorted ...
... who is going to sort it for English cricket?
Louis
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