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APAT / Blue Sq account question

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3N1GM4:

--- Quote from: APAT on August 25, 2009, 23:20:08 PM ---If I won £1,000 in the Horse event I don"t think I"d stop running until I hit the M42  ;)  :D
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I dunno, I suspect that event will end up being won by someone who will openly admit not knowing how to play most of the games... After all, limit is clearly designed to frustrate those competent at it by always rewarding the newbies with victory!

Bainn:

Geo:

--- Quote from: APAT on August 25, 2009, 21:13:03 PM ---
Sorry guys, getting heated on this thread will not help the situation one bit.  We are all in this together to a degree and I will get personally involved should any player have issues arising out of a potential payment into their Blue Square account. 

The simple matter is that there has been a slight misunderstanding between Blue Square and DTD over the payment method used for transferring some player entry and venue hire fees.  Blue Square issued cheques to DTD last week and should they clear in time; which they should, then all tournaments will be paid as per normal APAT procedures at DTD.  If the cheques do not clear then having the contingency payment plan in place via Blue Square accounts ensures the events go ahead.  The amount of money concerned is relatively small, which is why the alternative payout plan was put against the Omaha and Horse events; which will have 9 small cashes and 5 small cashes respectively, and not the main event, which will have several large cashes.

APAT have always been in the business of facing challenges head on and we worked very hard with both of our partners on this event to sort out the issue, but essentially we are all in the hands of accounts departments on this one.  As a very last resort we proposed the Blue Square account payment option.

Blue Square have been a superb sponsor of APAT as somebody wrote elsewhere in this thread.  For this event alone, they have covered your registration fees, venue fees, two buffets plus put up an entry to the GUKPT Grand Final worth over £3k.   They have also paid for the trophy and the medals and the organiser expenses.  I think that is worthy of consideration.

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Thanks Des,

However can"t help feeling if this info had been posted in the first place we wouldn"t be having this debate. Just food for thought for the future.

p.s. Had to say summat, couldn"t have Christian having the last word  ;)

Geo

kinboshi:

--- Quote from: APAT on August 25, 2009, 23:20:08 PM ---

--- Quote from: 3N1GM4 on August 25, 2009, 23:09:46 PM ---

--- Quote from: APAT on August 25, 2009, 23:05:49 PM ---
I completely agree that people should be able to discuss this topic; provided it is in a fair and reasonable manner, which I believe it largely has been to date. 

To answer a couple of your specific queries Ian:

With regards to funds, APAT has already transferred the majority of the prize pool to DTD, which more than covers the main event prize pool.  The amount in clearing is relatively small. 

It has been sprung on us all last minute unfortunately but I don"t necessarily think the players who are disappointed with this position would have been more pacified if the rider footnote was carried in every player briefing.

At this point every player should assume the cheques will not clear, which is why the player briefing stated what it did.

Under those circumstances no payments would be made at DTD.  Only 9 of 81 players will cash in the Omaha (5 in the Horse) and I think it is a very risky strategy if players are reliant on making the top 10% of either of those events to get through the rest of their weekend. That said, I seriously hope no player is inconvenienced by this late change.

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All sounds fair enough Des, while not ideal for those whom it might affect. Hopefully it"ll all work out anyway and my paycheque will come through before the weekend so I can make my donation to the poker community without having to rely on cashing in one of the events.  :D

With regards to the part in bold though, I don"t think I explained myself very well. What I meant was, if I was fortunate enough to win the HORSE event for example and take £1000, I would probably play some cash if I was paid out in note form as usual, but with a payment into BlueSquare, this would be impossible, that was all I mean, it might prevent people from enjoying their winnings that same weekend, for those who do not have a spare grand or so lying around to cover it until payday...

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If I won £1,000 in the Horse event I don"t think I"d stop running until I hit the M42  ;)  :D

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Anything to get out of buying a round.

::)

StuartHopkin:

--- Quote from: coprey on August 25, 2009, 22:23:03 PM ---
I can see samuel_9 retracted his statement. I applaud this and agree the "peasant" comment was not helpful to the debate. With regard to the "maybe samuel_9 is not a person" comment. I know Samuel_9 personally and can assure you he is very much a person and I am always happy to sit at a poker table with him, even if he does always end up with my chips(with or without salt and vinegar). I personally will be delighted to have such a wonderful problem as ensuring poker winnings arrive in my bank account. If it takes a few days then rest assurred ill not have blown it all on beer and cash tables. I am really looking forward to this weekend and I know Samuel_9 is also.

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Coprey

I take your point, im sure samuel_9 is a person, and a nice guy in real life. If he wants to introduce himself over the weekend I will get a plate of 50p chips, some salt and vinegar and also buy him a drink.

My comment did come across as personal, and I have no idea who this guy is. My comment was purely based on some inane posts, one at poor people, one saying he will eat my chips, and a complete lack of knowledge about the CAPS key.

Apologies



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