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Honeybadg:

--- Quote from: LongshanksED on October 11, 2009, 18:01:21 PM ---
Horrible spot.

Your probay up against at least an AK and a AQ and probably 2 players hold under pairs but a good chance of KK or AA in one of them. I take it is a super turbo type tourney with 1min blinds?

If i"m not in the BB then I"m folding. At best I"m putting myself on no more than 25% to 35% chance to win but even with the odds to call I don"t think I can do it.

Even in this fast structure you have a couple of more hands to play. Ven though you have an M of 3.5 or so (withbtge blinds going up fast) your opponnts are in the same position as you  

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5 mins levels - I will post what happened later ...

AMRN:

how can you not call? you are getting massive value with the third best starting hand, and even if someone has AA/KK, you are still priced in to the race..... and as pointed out further up the thread, so long as it"s a short stack that holds AA/KK, you still have insurance in the side pot.

if you fold here, you are probably going to end up having to get into a race with a hand much worse than QQ before long!!

Call.

Honeybadg:
... in the cold light of day it is a call ... for the reasons stated ... in my 14 seconds ... I reasoned the following ... I would be up against one KK or AA ... there might be an AQ which is horrid news if with KK or AA ...

Here were the hands ...

UTG : AT
Doobs : JJ
Judders : AA
Reptfish : TT

The AA held ... and my QQ would have (assuming the same flop) would have spiked the Q ... ARGH ... ticket won ...
If the AA held I would be up to 8250 ... no material chance in my position in the tournament.

With the hands as above ... QQ basic 18.6% chance to win ... so not straighforwadedly priced in ... it depends who has the AA or KK (assuming it is there)

My first two votes from my home game were 1-1 on call or fold.

I am for calling now ...

... what other hands would you call with in that spot?

Cheers for the feedback ...

L

AMRN:

--- Quote from: Honeybadg on October 12, 2009, 00:38:54 AM ---
... what other hands would you call with in that spot?


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Now that"s an interesting question - clearly any premium hand should be calling for value (for the reasons I suggested above) but given that we don"t have anywhere near enough chips to qualify, and a significant improvement to the stack is required, the value in the pot now may entice me to call with any suited connectors.

Honeybadg:
... suited connectors!?!

A straight forward double up - would have put me in a qualifying position ...

L

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