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Honeybadg:

--- Quote from: Marty719 on November 07, 2009, 22:23:31 PM ---
U shud never let ur self get in this spot!!  Raise pre, as played make it 180 and get them in as fast as poss!!  U cnt flat the 63, just jam 100% of the time thr. 

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I am not sure about the raise pre flop ... for the following reasons.

a/ I don"t want to create a massive pot and end in a coin flip.
b/ I am happy to play a mutli way pot with hands like AKs - which may get paid well if it hits.

Does anyone change the way they play this if in the early stages of a deep stack tournament?

L

lukybugur:

--- Quote from: Honeybadg on November 07, 2009, 21:58:09 PM ---
In terms of the hand itself ... I liked the limp ... but agree I should have re-raised to isolate the Big Straddle.

Instead I elected to flat call the £63 ... everyone else folds.

Flop is Q86 ... two diamonds ... I have AK spades ...

Big Straddle all in for £110 ... do I call?

L

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As played, easy fold and brush-it-off that you"ve only lost 10% of your stack.

JamieCarra:

--- Quote from: Honeybadg on November 07, 2009, 23:35:35 PM ---

--- Quote from: Marty719 on November 07, 2009, 22:23:31 PM ---
U shud never let ur self get in this spot!!  Raise pre, as played make it 180 and get them in as fast as poss!!  U cnt flat the 63, just jam 100% of the time thr. 

--- End quote ---


I am not sure about the raise pre flop ... for the following reasons.

a/ I don"t want to create a massive pot and end in a coin flip.
b/ I am happy to play a mutli way pot with hands like AKs - which may get paid well if it hits.

Does anyone change the way they play this if in the early stages of a deep stack tournament?

L

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You"re also gonna end up paying people off a lot when you hit TPTK and they hit their 2 pair or whatever.

Assuming stack sizes are similar proportions I play it pretty much the same in a tourney, I"m def happy to flip against a guy playing 20-25x

Honeybadg:

--- Quote from: lukybugur on November 08, 2009, 00:23:21 AM ---

--- Quote from: Honeybadg on November 07, 2009, 21:58:09 PM ---
In terms of the hand itself ... I liked the limp ... but agree I should have re-raised to isolate the Big Straddle.

Instead I elected to flat call the £63 ... everyone else folds.

Flop is Q86 ... two diamonds ... I have AK spades ...

Big Straddle all in for £110 ... do I call?

L

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As played, easy fold and brush-it-off that you"ve only lost 10% of your stack.


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Does this change at all if you are sure that the "big straddle" will push with any flop? (Well maybe not the one he hits hard).

L

Honeybadg:

--- Quote from: JamieCarra on November 08, 2009, 00:35:44 AM ---

--- Quote from: Honeybadg on November 07, 2009, 23:35:35 PM ---

--- Quote from: Marty719 on November 07, 2009, 22:23:31 PM ---
U shud never let ur self get in this spot!!  Raise pre, as played make it 180 and get them in as fast as poss!!  U cnt flat the 63, just jam 100% of the time thr. 

--- End quote ---


I am not sure about the raise pre flop ... for the following reasons.

a/ I don"t want to create a massive pot and end in a coin flip.
b/ I am happy to play a mutli way pot with hands like AKs - which may get paid well if it hits.

Does anyone change the way they play this if in the early stages of a deep stack tournament?

L

--- End quote ---


You"re also gonna end up paying people off a lot when you hit TPTK and they hit their 2 pair or whatever.

Assuming stack sizes are similar proportions I play it pretty much the same in a tourney, I"m def happy to flip against a guy playing 20-25x

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Yes - the two pair scenario is sick - actually earlier in the night I won a big pot with A2s into A2x

Defo - I raise if in a later position - Defo raise without the straddles.

Cannot fold - but feels highly likely flipping for a large pot or winning £15 of blinds/straddles.

In a tournament I am happier with my play ... two pair argument aside ... I would not be keen to flip for 20-25 BB though.

I don"t like my £63 flat call ... though there is a bit of history of AA/KK limping wait for the late raise/steal.

Still pondering the route to keep this pot small ... looks impossible ...

L

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