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Biggish early hand at Euro's - thoughts please?
AMRN:
Appreciate views on a hand I played at Luton on Saturday please - I"m thinking I got myself in a hole needlessley, and thought my way into trouble... but would appreciate feedback.
Table is a ******* of a starting table with a who"s who of 3 APAT champions, 5 players from the Euro Team champs, and a recent $100k online winner. There were three players I didn"t know, and that I was happier playing pots with, although two were on my left and had position on me - this made my button highly valuable.
I was up to 18k early on, and matey on my left was down to around 8k. We"d clashed in a pot recently, and I had been able to move him off a huge hand on the flop. Since then he seemed a little tilty, and called every raise I made simply cos he wanted to play in hands with me (and I was happy with that!).
So the hand in question - blinds are 100/200 and the table folds round to my button and I open for 550 with jd 8d. Matey snap calls in the SB - BB folds.
Flop is :2d: 6h 7d pot is 1300
Matey leads for 500 - I take this to be either a feeler bet, or a stopper bet if he has a small bit of the flop. I certainly don"t think he"s value betting here, given that I had a really LAG image and he must know that I"m going to c-bet - therefore he is likely to check a strong hand almost all of the time here.
I raise to 1800 - the size of the pot. Matey snap shoves. I need to call approx 5800 to win approx 11k - pot odds in the region of 2:1 (the numbers and bet sizes are a little hazy, but in this ball park)
I talk to him a bit and get a real sense that he hates the fact that I haven"t folded - he clearly didn"t want a call. I don"t believe he has a made hand and also don"t believe he"s drawing to a flush (previously he had check/called when drawing).... I just couldn"t make sense of the betting, and put him on air/over cards, or something silly like A2 for bottom pair.
If I call and lose I still have around 9k. Win and I have 27k. If the dimes are live, I have the correct odds to call. Throw in the J and 8 as live cards, and I"m 60/40 favourite.
Would you call? If not, why not?
Marty719:
Gng by ur reads its a 100% call. Esp seeing as ur J/8 mite b gd to hit. Blinds r still early enuf for a 9k stack to still b playable as well, buts lets face it - u run too good to miss this :)
Eck:
If I was you I would fold you will obv get done on the river..... :D
daveyb147:
Call all day long there i think,,as u said,, still 9k left if u miss,,plenty to do some damage with.
Was briefly at your table and if it was the guy to your immediate left i noticed during my short stay he was pretty free with his chips.
Im the guy who got payed with my set of kings and then ran to another table lol (seat 1).Was enjoying your table at the .time
deanp27:
you really should know what you are going to do when you make the raise. Personally i call the flop lead as it is so small and you are certainly getting the right price to play the next street with position.
You are semi bluffing and his donk can mean a few things:
A weak lead with a semi decent hand, traditionally known as a feeler bet
an inducer bet with flopped set or similar strong hand, looking for a raise.
a draw wanting to set his own price, but then realising he can semi-rebluff with stacks sizes once you raise
given his preflop range is likely mid pairs, Ax, KT+, some suited connectors, i think his range is pretty strong vs your hand, made hands and bigger draws are more likely than smaller draws, weak top pairs and air.
i wouldn"t raise to fold in this spot personally but i would have just flatted the donk bet.
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