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Correct ruling?
LongshanksED:
Playing last night and as it"s was getting to shovefest time (300/600 blinds and average stack of 6-7k 7 handed final table) I pick up AJ suited diamonds. UTG and shove for 3.5k
player to my immediate left goes all in for their last 1k ( just lost a 5k pot on a flip)
round to button who calls what he thought was the 1k but when he was told it"s was 3.5k that he had to cover my bet too. He didn"t look happy about it as he didn"t realise there was already 2 players in the pot and wanted to take his 1k back but the table overruled him and said he had to call the full bet which he grudgingly did. I said that since he was mistaken surely he could take his bet back ( figured I must be in bad shape and one of them has a strong ace and other a pocket pair) but was told that the verbal call stands
player on my right held K5o ( that"s right) and the player mistakenly in the hand had 33. I was in better shape than I thought especially when it came down 446 with 2 diamonds but I couldn"t hit one of my over cards diamond or pair the board (turn was a 9)
But does the guy have to call the bet if he didn"t know what he was calling too?
Marty719:
Pretty sure he is 100% committed to leaving the 1k out there but can fold for the other 2.5k.
AMRN:
if he has announced call, he has to call the whole bet (your 3.5k)
either way, his 1k has crossed the line and cannot be retrieved, no matter what the outcome on the other 2.5k
MintTrav:
The strict rule is that they have to call the whole previous bet. Otherwise they have the opportunity to judge your reaction to their call and then change their mind. However, some TDs apply common sense where it is clear that the player wasn"t angle-shooting. I have seen the rule applied strictly in two APAT events. However, I have twice seen players allowed to take back calls in GUKPT MEs (and once saw a player allowed to take back his cards after he inexplicably threw them in the muck at the same time as putting his chips in to call). All the APAT & GUKPT events in question took place in Grosvenor casinos. I"m pretty sure I have also seen WSOP footage of someone allowed to take back their call chips and fold their hand after it was pointed out that there was a reraise (can"t remember who but I think it was a "name", which may have influenced the decision). The standard procedure in these situations is that the cheaper the buy-in, the more strictly and inflexibly the rules will be enforced. If you really want to see inflexibility, play in a pub league.
World Series of Poker Rules
1. Floor people are to consider the best interest of the game and fairness as the top priority in the decision-making process. Unusual circumstances can, on occasion, dictate that the technical interpretation of the rules be ignored in the interest of fairness. The floorperson"s decision is final. (Note, this rule used to be rule #31, but TDA members voted to move it to rule #1.)
http://www.gambling-poker.com/world_series_poker_rules.html
deanp27:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on January 12, 2010, 15:13:06 PM ---
Pretty sure he is 100% committed to leaving the 1k out there but can fold for the other 2.5k.
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pretty sure it is this but rules do vary
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