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Tonight's live game. (Hand Two)
stoneii:
--- Quote ---Em.................that"s what we want, is it not?
Why does everyone want to force a fold when we"re holding Kings?
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^^^^^ This in spades - thank god it"s not just me - I ALWAYS want a 4-1 dog hand to call me pre - if he hits - curse the poker gods and not your play - the play is perfect if you get an opponent to call as such a dog - surely anything else is results orientated poker advice!!
LongshanksED:
Because kings is a strong hand it"s not unbeatable as shown. And in a 3 way pot kings will only win around 60% of the time against 2 random hands. You get utg player to fold then yours odds go up to 80% to win. I"m happy to shove to isolate. That"s why when you watch the good players they raise with aces to isolate. Not just to get more chips in the pot. They know more players in the pot = less chance of winning
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on January 30, 2010, 07:38:29 AM ---
Because kings is a strong hand it"s not unbeatable as shown. And in a 3 way pot kings will only win around 60% of the time against 2 random hands. You get utg player to fold then yours odds go up to 80% to win. I"m happy to shove to isolate. That"s why when you watch the good players they raise with aces to isolate. Not just to get more chips in the pot. They know more players in the pot = less chance of winning
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That"s pretty conservative. I"d isolate with a weaker hand but don"t we need to take some risks if we want to build our stack? The odds are still strongly in our favour. People don"t want to take this risk but they will happily take on races that are close to 50/50.
If you want to shove pre, what is the objective of your bet? Would you like him to call or fold? I bet you don"t all give the same answer.
jlane1980:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on January 29, 2010, 22:56:01 PM ---
How many Players left before the hand started. Close to the bubble or way off?
Also with the 3rd player all in you and utg player couldve checked it down to strengthen your chances of eliminating him but I"d imagine villian wouldve made a value bet on the turn or river to try and extract a bit more
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Still another 3 tables remaining, cash on the final table.
Mikeyboy9361:
I agree with John here, I think the raise is fine, with Kings I would want a caller. Then on that flop I would be pushing, its just a cooler. Bad luck.
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