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shozboy1:
Views on this shove would be welcome. Its small and BB hand (me in the SB). Is a low buyin 2500 man tourney with 80ish left. I have been very aggressive, and on this particular table continued that trend. Played about 70-80 hands on this table. Against the player in this hand, I"ve open raised 5-6 times off the buttn when he"s been in the SB. He"s folded couple of times, 3bet me (causing me to fold) 2-3 times aswell. He"s also recently down to 14ish BBs and switched to shove/fold strategy.
The last time we clashed was about 20 hands ago when I had AQs on buttn, he repops from SB. I shove and he calls with 99. He wins that race. That left me with about 20 BBs at the time, but managed to chip up again. Anyway, now I have 20BBs, he has 15BBs. I shoved because I felt he"d reraise a limp/small raise by me in keeping with our prev history.

So question is is this shove fine?


PokerStars Game #38955163621: Tournament #281110176, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2010/01/30 13:53:05 WET [2010/01/30 8:53:05 ET]
Table "281110176 127" 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Illuminati13 (60694 in chips)
Seat 2: DARVADOR (198982 in chips)
Seat 4: @hp3@ (154692 in chips)
Seat 5: Slyer3 (111354 in chips)
Seat 6: zabaglione (246638 in chips)
Seat 7: opontios (137323 in chips)
Seat 8: St3ve-OO (46130 in chips)
Seat 9: shozboy (87113 in chips)
Illuminati13: posts the ante 400
DARVADOR: posts the ante 400
@hp3@: posts the ante 400
Slyer3: posts the ante 400
zabaglione: posts the ante 400
opontios: posts the ante 400
St3ve-OO: posts the ante 400
shozboy: posts the ante 400
shozboy: posts small blind 2000
Illuminati13: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shozboy [Kd 3s]
DARVADOR: folds
@hp3@: folds
Slyer3: folds
zabaglione: folds
opontios: folds
St3ve-OO: folds
shozboy: raises 82713 to 86713 and is all-in

LongshanksED:
Too aggresive IMO

is have just flatted pre if I feel he"s gonna come over the top with ATC.

Your short but not desperate and on the button next hand were you can shove to take blinds and antes

AMRN:
There was an article about this in the last round of PP..... "The Unexploitable Shove". When open shoving from the SB, the BB can only really call with a very narrow range. You only have one player to get through (low risk) and you can"t be 3-bet off the hand or outplayed post flop, hence it being called unexploitable.

I don"t mind your shove, so long as it"s not a habitual move, otherwise the BB range for calling widens signficantly.

shozboy1:
yes I saw that issue of PP. Although I"d been aggressive, this was the 1st time I"d open shoved generally.
I hated completing the blinds, given how he"d been playing. I thought there was a very decent chance he"d shove. Same reason I didnt like raising. I wonder what order people would put the options in here?

for me its shove>limp>raise>fold?

With 20BBs and less than 100 players left (and falling fast) I had mentally switched to a push/fold/resteal mentality.

noble1:
surely this is only unexploitable if u are called 100% and it is cEV+ against a random hand ? with FE this is obv cEV..


K3o versus random calling 100%

.51*65494=33401
.49* -58294= -28564
= +4837

32o versus random
.33*65494=21613
.67* -58294= -39056
= -17443

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10641083&an=0&page=2 link to sng moshman writes about - http://forum.parttimepoker.com/showthread.php?t=512670
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/Unexploitable-Play-and-When-To-Use-It-Vivek-Rajkumar-1591.htm
this article in PKR made me laugh , he just writes about the spew that is happening in low stakes :) http://www.pkr.com/en/raise-your-game/sit-and-go/sitngos19-1of3/

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