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50 nl hand JJ in SB

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Fonzie14:
I"m 3 betting pre as well. Happy to take pot now, rather than try and play JJ oop.

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: AMRN on February 20, 2010, 07:06:56 AM ---
you"re post contains bets for turn and river, but no cards...?


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OOPS! Fixed. Have"nt got river in there yet.

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: George2Loose on February 20, 2010, 10:55:40 AM ---
Surely this is a fairly standard 3 bet pre in 6 max?

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So we 3bet, whats your plan for the hand...
He 4 bets 10% time and we fold? and lose 10.5 bb"s and any ev we had and we have to give up our set value?
He folds 70% time we win 5 bb"s.

He Calls 20%  pot is 21 bb"s we have 100 bb"s behind and we"re oop. Are you cbetting 100% flops.


TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: AMRN on February 20, 2010, 07:06:56 AM ---
you"re post contains bets for turn and river, but no cards...?

as far as the flop...  I think I"m check raising most of the time here. If he 3bets, against his stats, I guess I"m gonna get my stack in.  Just calling keeps the pot small and under control, but against his range, on this board, and with JJ, I want a big pot rather than a small one.

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If we"re leading the betting here, the Bigger the pot gets, the more likely our one pair is behind.

George2Loose:

--- Quote from: TheSnapper on February 20, 2010, 15:08:24 PM ---

--- Quote from: George2Loose on February 20, 2010, 10:55:40 AM ---
Surely this is a fairly standard 3 bet pre in 6 max?

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So we 3bet, whats your plan for the hand...
He 4 bets 10% time and we fold? and lose 10.5 bb"s and any ev we had and we have to give up our set value?
He folds 70% time we win 5 bb"s.

He Calls 20%  pot is 21 bb"s we have 100 bb"s behind and we"re oop. Are you cbetting 100% flops.




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This is why you probably be playing 6 max. The game is so much about feel and there"s so many specialists playing 6 max that it is so much tougher than full ring.

Playing jacks for set value isn"t profitable long term imo and the situation you find yourself in now is why. You talk about 3 betting with no plan, well it seems like you"ve flatted without a plan.


Whether you fold to a 4 bet is entirely down to your read and player rendencies- given your stats on the villian I would perhaps be folding to a 4 bet but happy to get it in on this board if he flats your 3 bet. Calling has just created more problems than 3 betting

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