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CrizzyConnor:

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--- Quote from: Taddy on February 23, 2010, 23:00:32 PM ---

--- Quote from: Bigfella42 on February 23, 2010, 21:29:27 PM ---
What"s the definition of an APAT member?

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Someone who has submitted their email address to the APAT website, and created a username

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What about that fellow that won an event last season (I think) that just showed up on the day at the casino and wasn"t registered with APAT website or Blue Square? I saw something mentioned about it on another thread and I think that it"s anyone who plays in ANY tournament held by apat (live or online) or anyone who has reg"d on website. Not 100% sure though...

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I do personally think that you should have to register on here before you can play an event, especially a live one but oh well.

KarmaDope:

--- Quote from: CrizzyConnor on February 24, 2010, 00:13:32 AM ---

--- Quote from: CrizzyConnor on February 24, 2010, 00:12:23 AM ---

--- Quote from: Taddy on February 23, 2010, 23:00:32 PM ---

--- Quote from: Bigfella42 on February 23, 2010, 21:29:27 PM ---
What"s the definition of an APAT member?

--- End quote ---

Someone who has submitted their email address to the APAT website, and created a username

--- End quote ---


What about that fellow that won an event last season (I think) that just showed up on the day at the casino and wasn"t registered with APAT website or Blue Square? I saw something mentioned about it on another thread and I think that it"s anyone who plays in ANY tournament held by apat (live or online) or anyone who has reg"d on website. Not 100% sure though...

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I do personally think that you should have to register on here before you can play an event, especially a live one but oh well.

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If you don"t mind me asking, why? This isn"t the Online Amateur Poker and Association Tour, and not everybody uses the internet.

This is the sole criticism I have of APAT, yet I can"t think of a solution. Some people solely use cash, aren"t technologically advanced, and as such this rules them out of even trying to attempt to play APAT. Just a pity there"s no real solution for this.

CrizzyConnor:

--- Quote from: sharplea on February 24, 2010, 00:50:55 AM ---

--- Quote from: CrizzyConnor on February 24, 2010, 00:13:32 AM ---

--- Quote from: CrizzyConnor on February 24, 2010, 00:12:23 AM ---

--- Quote from: Taddy on February 23, 2010, 23:00:32 PM ---

--- Quote from: Bigfella42 on February 23, 2010, 21:29:27 PM ---
What"s the definition of an APAT member?

--- End quote ---

Someone who has submitted their email address to the APAT website, and created a username

--- End quote ---


What about that fellow that won an event last season (I think) that just showed up on the day at the casino and wasn"t registered with APAT website or Blue Square? I saw something mentioned about it on another thread and I think that it"s anyone who plays in ANY tournament held by apat (live or online) or anyone who has reg"d on website. Not 100% sure though...

--- End quote ---


I do personally think that you should have to register on here before you can play an event, especially a live one but oh well.

--- End quote ---


If you don"t mind me asking, why? This isn"t the Online Amateur Poker and Association Tour, and not everybody uses the internet.

This is the sole criticism I have of APAT, yet I can"t think of a solution. Some people solely use cash, aren"t technologically advanced, and as such this rules them out of even trying to attempt to play APAT. Just a pity there"s no real solution for this.

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The simple fact is, anybody that doesn"t use the internet these days does so through choice imo. If you don"t have a computer and even if you don"t know how to use one you can go to most local libraries throughout the UK and get free internet access and be shown how to use the computers. It only takes two seconds to sign up, you don"t need to spend anymore time online than that. Before my great-gran died last year she was using the internet regularly at 90yrs old, and she only learned how to do so at 88! If she done it, anybody can. The vast majority of people in the UK can get online if they really want to. The same thing goes with Credit Cards, you don"t even need a credit card in fact - I"ve always used my debit card attached to my regular bank account when loading money onto poker sites. And anyone who doesn"t have a bank account is living in the dark ages, how do they get paid for work etc?

Myself and hundreds of others travel from all over the country to attend APAT events and go to the effort to do so. My main gripe with this subject came when I found out local folk not associated with APAT could just turn up to the speciality series this season on the day and play in the events if they so wish. I think priority should be given to the people who have made the effort to register already, satellite or buy into the main event and in most cases travelled distances and made hotel arrangements to be at the event. Most popular local casinos or poker clubs could fill these events on a Sunday no problem without any APAT players being involved. That"s where my main gripe comes from. I"m not saying anyone should be disallowed to enter, APAT is open to everyone to play if they so wish but there should be some sort of proper procedure to join and local players (who are not yet APAT members) should be given some sort of advance warning to join should they want to play in any of the events.

Just my opinion though.

MAIR:
"if they really want to", thats just it Chris they may not want to USE the internet, its personal preference.

As for people at the local casino getting in as an alternate, they have every right to become a member of APAT just like you and I did, and if there is a space available via an alternate on the day then I see no reason why that person can"t play, after all we all have to start as an APAT member somewhere.

It shouldn"t matter how or where you become an APAT member.

My belief to becoming a member is either by registering via APAT website, playing an online game gets you an auto membership, so therefore, playing a live game would make you an auto member also, even if it is the next day you sign up for the forum.

Many people travel down to the events in the hope of still getting into the tournament as an alternate, I"m talking regular APAT members who play, and a lot of them are successful but when the alternate list is opened and people put their name down, having a new local individual sign up can only be good for APAT overall as they hopefully will become a regular player, join in with the forum and be welcomed like everyone else to the APAT community.

As for the speciality series, I would imagine APAT will have an APAT members register first policy, but I can"t confirm that as I do not know.

Jon MW:
I agree, you shouldn"t be compelled to use the internet to be a member, there"s no reason for any poker player to have to use the internet, so there"s no reason for an APAT member to have to either

Ideally I wouldn"t want people to have to join Betfair to preregister for the events either, but I do have some idea of how much hassle payment processing is in general for any organisation, so I can fully understand why it could be allowed as a necessary evil

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