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Whats the right play here?
Marty719:
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shozboy1:
I know what your saying. Calling an 11x raise is generally bad in most situations, but I"m looking atthe raise size as a % of my current stack. I think the stack size of the hero was 7000, so the raise still represents less than 10% of total stack size. Its only something I would potentially do at the 25/50 level. If its 50-100, and he raises 11x, I"m probably shoving all in over the top with a 7000 stack
AMRN:
--- Quote from: shozboy1 on April 21, 2010, 13:55:06 PM ---
I know what your saying. Calling an 11x raise is generally bad in most situations, but I"m looking atthe raise size as a % of my current stack. I think the stack size of the hero was 7000, so the raise still represents less than 10% of total stack size. Its only something I would potentially do at the 25/50 level. If its 50-100, and he raises 11x, I"m probably shoving all in over the top with a 7000 stack
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stack size is irrelevant here - it"s the raise size in relation to the Big Blind that matters. You say you would call 11xBB at 25/50, but not at 50/100..... that doesn"t really make sense as the raise is exactly the same size in comparison the BB.
We should never ever ever ever be flatting such a big raise - with a monster we should be looking to raise more and bloat the pot with a view to getting all in, or with a marginal or rag hand, we either fold or raise to bluff. There is no good reason for flat calling - it doesn"t fit with a monster, a marginal hand, or rags.
deanp27:
--- Quote from: shozboy1 on April 21, 2010, 13:55:06 PM ---
I know what your saying. Calling an 11x raise is generally bad in most situations, but I"m looking atthe raise size as a % of my current stack. I think the stack size of the hero was 7000, so the raise still represents less than 10% of total stack size. Its only something I would potentially do at the 25/50 level. If its 50-100, and he raises 11x, I"m probably shoving all in over the top with a 7000 stack
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so you are set mining then?
shozboy1:
No I wouldnt be calling to set mine. I"d be calling with a view to raising any flop cbet on a decentish flop.
I understand the point of not flatting, however consider this example. If you"re playing in the WSOP/WSOPE main event where starting stacks are 30000 with blinds starting at 25/50. If an early pos raiser makes it - say 400-500. Another big 8-10x raise, and you look down at a pocket pair - say 55. Are you saying it would be incorrect to call? I understand its another overthetop raise here, but surely it isn"t a terrible mistake to set mine for rougly 1% of your stack?
I guess I"m thinking that your own stack size has to play a part in deciding whether to set mine or not, and not only the number of BBs the villain raises.
In this particular case I"m not calling to set mine, but I"m calling to raise any cbet on the right sort of flop and be happy to get my money in. So I"d be calling with a plan. what are the stats of an A or K flopping? 30% (noble correct me if I"m wrong). So 70% of flops I"ll be going with this plan and in the unlikely event he has AA/KK so be it
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