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TheSnapper:

deanp27:
ok you probably don"t want preflop analysis but i"ll give it anyway. i actually think you chose the worst option pre given stack sizes. I often raise to isolate the terrible UTG limper but folding is probably more viable, basically because you are always going to be in a pickle with 2nd pair or a draw like this post flop and bluffing fish in a 4 way pot is tough.

Anyway, without being results orientated i think i would check behind flop. When you bet you should be prepared to face a raise or call and know what your plan is for that or the next street. I think if you bet this you should go with the hand and get all your chips in, despite it being obvious that you aren"t in great shape. You have them covered with c10-12bbs if you lose the hand. Also you may not be in terrible shape vs the sb if he comes along, he could have a draw or 6x which could create a small side pot.

i"d ship as played but checking flop and folding pre are both viable as well if you are not comfortable raising from the button with these players. Also if you were intending to bet/fold flop then bet smaller (say 3k), they won"t notice.

AMRN:
fold pre - not the best of spots to get involved... would prefer to raise as a steal here, but if you can"t see them folding, then folding yourself is probably the better option.

check in position on the flop and take the free turn card - keeps the pot under control, and if you turn the straight you are well disguised.

If you are going to bet this flop, you have to be prepared to ship the lot.

noble1:
as played upto flop with the stack sizes,your hand strength and the player types etc check flop and plan to make a delayed bet on the turn , if opponents show no interest..If u do pick up a hand of some sort say a pair of 7"s or 8"s on the turn you can still bet out and get mediocre hands to call the turn [the 5"s or 6"s,flush draws] , by betting this flop if u were only called then with this stack size you end up mostly checking the turn anyhows and can hand villians potentially the initiative back on the river as they are 1st to act.... if u bet/semi bluff turn and only get called and they check river and u have whiffed all outs then u still have the option to bluff or give up or showdown cheap if u hit a 7 or 8.... think about it  :)

Flop bet is to much imho anyhooos.. :)
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then 1/2 pot for instance will be just as effective, 3 loose opponents to bet into on a king high 2suit flop hmmm :)
nufff said  ;)

LongshanksED:
Fold pre,

check flop in position and be wary if a 3rd spade falls if it completes your straight!

but as played I"d be getting it in here now as the last 4k of the BB will be going in anyway on the turn and you can"t fold for 4k on the turn. Your shove may force out SB who could just be on a flush draw

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