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Estonia Satellites: A Word from our sponsor?
AceOnTheRiver:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on April 28, 2010, 06:11:21 AM ---
Anyway, I suspect that the "guarantee" would be unnecessary as the mere fact of having it in place would ensure that it wouldn"t be needed...if you see what I mean.
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That"s kind of what I was thinking. The existance of the guarantee should mean we will reach the level of buy-in that the guarantee was representing and then won"t need the guarantee because we"ve reached it.....due to the guarantee!! Simples ;)
Is that a paradox?
Hopefully it will affect the mindset of people who want to play but see that there are only 9 people registered (i.e. $180 assuming a $20 sat) a couple of hours before the game when 20 would be needed to guarantee one package.
In that scenario I know I would register, given the presence of a guarantee - without one I might not. Plus Leigh et al would be doing their thing on this forum, other forums, FB, Smoke signals etc ;D
--- Quote from: xxMAIRxx on April 28, 2010, 06:30:22 AM ---
Its not just the entry fee, which is mostly what these sats offer, the added expenses of travel, accommodation and spending money abroad is huge and for the likes of me and, I am sure, many others, is in no way achievable to attend.
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I understand your point Mair but this would be for a $400 package so $120 seat plus $280 expenses - winners would probably have to top this up but it will go a long way towards.
--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 13:49:39 PM ---
I think it"s likely that every one of the satellites would have an overlay if one package was guaranteed for every satellite
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Why do you say that Jon? One of the sats for Vienna got quite close without the guarantee
--- Quote from: duke3016 on April 27, 2010, 21:53:21 PM ---
FFS I am going anyway
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That"s great Duke but you will still play the rebuy if there is one..... won"t you......please ;)
MAIR:
I can see where you are coming from honest, looking for that guarantee of 1 package so it encourages people to play. The only point I was trying to make was that even tho this may well be a gr8 addition to the S4 calendar for some, the majority of people will struggle to attend.
When most poker sites advertise tournaments abroad their packages are far superior and include travel, accommodation and the likes which encourages people to play the sats and want to go.
With the small amount left over after the seat for this one there is still quite a lot to add to the total cost, and therefore, not worth it.
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on April 28, 2010, 19:14:23 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 13:49:39 PM ---
I think it"s likely that every one of the satellites would have an overlay if one package was guaranteed for every satellite
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Why do you say that Jon? One of the sats for Vienna got quite close without the guarantee
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Quite close to the seat value or quite close to the suggested package value?
AceOnTheRiver:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 19:35:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on April 28, 2010, 19:14:23 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 13:49:39 PM ---
I think it"s likely that every one of the satellites would have an overlay if one package was guaranteed for every satellite
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Why do you say that Jon? One of the sats for Vienna got quite close without the guarantee
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Quite close to the seat value or quite close to the suggested package value?
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Just checked and it was 12 for $240 so maybe "quite close" was a bit of an exageration. Still 60% of the requisite players for the package value??
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on April 28, 2010, 19:40:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 19:35:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on April 28, 2010, 19:14:23 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Jon MW on April 28, 2010, 13:49:39 PM ---
I think it"s likely that every one of the satellites would have an overlay if one package was guaranteed for every satellite
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Why do you say that Jon? One of the sats for Vienna got quite close without the guarantee
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--- End quote ---
Quite close to the seat value or quite close to the suggested package value?
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Just checked and it was 12 for $240 so maybe "quite close" was a bit of an exageration. Still 60% of the requisite players for the package value??
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The answer is that I just don"t think there would be the demand for it, and I don"t think that shows any evidence otherwise.
The satellites with a package might be interesting, but for something like future London based tournaments maybe.
i.e. Plenty of demand but higher than average costs
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