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Anything wrong with this play?
Pears27:
It should be him posting on this board, gauging opinion on his call with 2nd pair no kicker. Your hand plays itself imo.
mousebob:
--- Quote from: Pears27 on May 05, 2010, 19:48:42 PM ---
It should be him posting on this board, gauging opinion on his call with 2nd pair no kicker. Your hand plays itself imo.
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My thoughts exactly. Although he may be a little embarrassed by the "interesting" way
he played the hand!
noble1:
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on May 04, 2010, 18:59:39 PM ---
Playing the SCOOP (L) $22 6-max, approx 3 hours in with around 18 x bb.
My image is reasonably tight and I have folded to a few pre-flop 4-bets having opened, however the villain hasn"t been at our table too long.
In this hand the villain opens for a min-raise from MP and I call from the BB with 78o - we are heads up.
I check the 256 rainbow flop and he leads out with a pot sized bet.
I shove over the top with my open-ended straight draw.
Thoughts?
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hmmm 18bb at approx 300/600 ante 70 and you check raise all in with basically no fold equity ..
pre flop pot 9 handed is 1530 , 2xbb minraise and u call ... flop 256r pot is 3330 and he bets pot and u check raise 18bb
10800 , so now to villain the pot is 17460 and it costs him 7470 to call [2.33 to 1 ... 30% equity]
u may think he is awful to call u but u really need to pokerstove what he might think your range would be here , his perceived awful call may not look quite so bad... :)
u have no read on him , he has not seen u folding to 3bets as he has only just joined the table ... You are only 18bb deep and your flatting oop with no reads and then choose to check raise after seeing a pot bet and expect a fold a high percentage of the time???
why is not shoving pre the bettter option??
why is not a go+go not a better option??
why is not folding pre a better option??
if u feel u have to call 1bb oop why is not seeing a flop and donk betting not a better option??
do u think choosing to check raise with your stack size after villain bets pot is the best option??
whats your plan if u miss the flop with your fairly shallow stack??
board - :2c: 5d 6h
villain - 54s 51.930% [54o is 50.4% against a strongish range he might put u on to check raise]
yourself - 22+,87s,76s,AJo-ATo,87o 48.070%
FISH ??????
AceOnTheRiver:
--- Quote ---hmmm 18bb at approx 300/600 ante 70 and you check raise all in with basically no fold equity
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Where are you getting these numbers from - I didn"t post the blinds and I can"t remember them now but I definitely had fold equity (remember the SCOOP has a very slow structure). When that flop hits CRAI is always my plan, though I can see the argument for donk lead.
--- Quote ---pre flop pot 9 handed is 1530 , 2xbb minraise and u call
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Remember this is 6-max so your pot figures are out
--- Quote ---u may think he is awful to call u but u really need to pokerstove what he might think your range would be here , his perceived awful call may not look quite so bad...
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I didn"t say his call was awful, yes I was surprised by his holding when he did call, but it was him criticising my play (and with some vitriol too) which lead me to post
--- Quote ---whats your plan if u miss the flop with your fairly shallow stack??
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Fold - simple. I still have a playable stack.
--- Quote ---FISH
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Errr, no!
noble1:
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on May 04, 2010, 18:59:39 PM ---
Playing the SCOOP (L) $22 6-max, approx 3 hours in with around 18 x bb.
thoughts?
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event1 scoop 6max 250k gtd at 3 hours in at 15 min levels would be 300/600 ante 70...
6handed pot pre 1320 , min raise 1200 u call for 600 more = 3120 .. he bets pot = 6240 , u check raise 18bb [18x600 = 10800] , after check raise the pot is 17040 and it is 7680 to for him to call which is 2.21 to call [31.1% equity]
sorry i gave some honest critique , i think how u played this was by far the worst option in this situation given your stack size and position... just my opinion...gave u my thoughts :)
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