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S4 WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2010
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: daveyb147 on May 18, 2010, 16:33:16 PM ---
difficult one this,,,,i see wot you are saying with regard not enough events played for the rankings to be a major factor but on the other hand i dont see how a captain can know the poker abilities of every apat player at their disposal,,,maybe next year if there are not many events played before the team event it should be the previous season rankings that count toward selection,,,,one live nat ranking winner ,,one online ranking winner,,and 2 picks maybe ???
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Not all teams will have a live and online winner to pick
rejmak:
--- Quote from: travel_52 on May 17, 2010, 17:51:52 PM ---
Des,
Why are the current champions Poland not defending their crown?
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Who said we dont?????
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: Waz1892 on May 18, 2010, 08:51:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: APAT on May 17, 2010, 22:54:48 PM ---
Stuart, your points are very valid and we"re certainly willing as always to listen to feedback on this. Ultimately I would want to ensure we can continue to incentivise players to play APAT National events and this is one very good way to do so. We"ll await further feedback before finalising the position.
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Then could it be set now for S5 that national events and points standing at the end of S4 will dictate some Team positions next year. Everyone knows the score...so you have the incentivisation (its a word!) your looking for, but without closing the door for this years selection, with it being unannouced, and only possible to include the small sample of events so far.
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This would be a good option.
Should we also not consider the online rankings, pro league rankings and National League points. Not all APAT players can play a large number of the National events.
Also, given that the format of the team event includes a fair proportion of HU games should performance in that area not be considered. We now have a HU event on the APAT schedule and strong showing at that may influence a captain.
All things considered I think any proposal to remove the freedom from captains to choose who they think gives their team the best chance of winning is only taking away from the role.
Speaking as a previous non-playing captain, the freedom of choice was the most challenging part of the job but one which IMO needs to remain.
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: APAT on May 17, 2010, 22:54:48 PM ---
Stuart, your points are very valid and we"re certainly willing as always to listen to feedback on this. Ultimately I would want to ensure we can continue to incentivise players to play APAT National events and this is one very good way to do so. We"ll await further feedback before finalising the position.
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Thanks Des, I see where you are coming from.
I personally think the incentives to play the national events are already there. If you want to increase them would it not be more appropriate to offer positions in the APAT team at the UK Team Championship?
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on May 18, 2010, 20:28:43 PM ---
Also, given that the format of the team event includes a fair proportion of HU games should performance in that area not be considered. We now have a HU event on the APAT schedule and strong showing at that may influence a captain.
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That"ll be a neat trick, as this year"s teams are barred from it:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on May 17, 2010, 20:26:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on May 17, 2010, 20:22:32 PM ---
2. Can players in this event enter into the HU and Stud events? No, the events clash
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While you"re reconsidering various things, you gotta reconsider this. Apparently, the most prestigious side-event (imo) is off-limits to anyone picked for the national teams. I don"t think there should be a problem with playing both. Most of the team event involves hanging around waiting for your turn. Jumping across for the odd HU shouldn"t present an issue. It may happen that a HU has to wait for a while, but mostly it wouldn"t happen and anyway so what? Knock-on effects would be negligible. So that"s agreed then?
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