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thoughts please.....
Marty719:
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 08, 2010, 10:39:02 AM ---
First off, I would never have flat called here preflop in a STT SNG when stacked with just 35xBB. With one raise in front I would snap fold KQ. With one raise and two calls in front, I would consider shoving to squeeze.
As played though, when you catch an open-ender plus two overs, flat calling is so spewy.... if you miss turn and river, you"ve just wasted half your stack, and have very little FE left. Jam the flop and hope to take it down there and then - if called, you have several outs. You will either be out, or healthily stacked - much better than sitting on a micro stack and probably having to shove the rest in a much worse spot than this.
In a STT SNG - imo, Fold KQ pre in an opened pot - preserve chips for the shoving stage.
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KQ IS THE NUTS!!!
AMRN:
--- Quote from: pokernuts07 on July 08, 2010, 11:03:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on July 08, 2010, 03:34:41 AM ---
pokernuts as long as u were thinking about future streets, yours/opponent chip stacks and what your opponent/s was going to do later [reads], then fine if u had a plan... if not , then u played it very weak... STD? yes std weak ...
Cmon APAT regs , get writing/typing and help pokernut out here please... do u think this is std?
gg
noble
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Out of interest, why take the discussion to a PM? surely the whole idea of the forum academy section is to keep the discussed thread open for all?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on July 08, 2010, 11:08:00 AM ---
KQ IS THE NUTS!!!
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KQ is the 26th best starting hand
pokernuts07:
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 08, 2010, 10:39:02 AM ---
First off, I would never have flat called here preflop in a STT SNG when stacked with just 35xBB. With one raise in front I would snap fold KQ. With one raise and two calls in front, I would consider shoving to squeeze.
As played though, when you catch an open-ender plus two overs, flat calling is so spewy.... if you miss turn and river, you"ve just wasted half your stack, and have very little FE left. Jam the flop and hope to take it down there and then - if called, you have several outs. You will either be out, or healthily stacked - much better than sitting on a micro stack and probably having to shove the rest in a much worse spot than this.
In a STT SNG - imo, Fold KQ pre in an opened pot - preserve chips for the shoving stage.
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Thanks Steve. Hmmm....not sure I agree/good enough to fold KQ on a 6 seater SNG. Maybe a squeeze play would have been better than a call but never folding.
Agree now that the flat call on the flop is weak and tbh not my normal play at all, would normally shove but I think I was tilting a bit from not hitting previous draws and decided to call as the odds looked good. Saying that, the odds is where I do struggle and probably didn"t take into account that I might not have seen 2 cards.
Another point re stack sizes. Can we really take this into account at this stage - early on and most are all on about 1500? Can understand if someone was heavily stacked or short but as we were about the same and you only start with 1500 each.
pokernuts07:
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 08, 2010, 11:08:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: pokernuts07 on July 08, 2010, 11:03:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on July 08, 2010, 03:34:41 AM ---
pokernuts as long as u were thinking about future streets, yours/opponent chip stacks and what your opponent/s was going to do later [reads], then fine if u had a plan... if not , then u played it very weak... STD? yes std weak ...
Cmon APAT regs , get writing/typing and help pokernut out here please... do u think this is std?
gg
noble
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PM sent
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Out of interest, why take the discussion to a PM? surely the whole idea of the forum academy section is to keep the discussed thread open for all?
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Was replying to a PM sent by noble in addition to his reply on this thread - it was just more detailed that"s all.
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