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thoughts please.....
Marty719:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on July 08, 2010, 13:14:18 PM ---
I think I go fold > CRAI > call here.
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I actually think I go really different to this. I think i go:
crai>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call>fold
If we call pre, folding this flop shouldn"t really be in our agenda.
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on July 08, 2010, 13:28:38 PM ---
If we call pre, folding this flop shouldn"t really be in our agenda.
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under the "dont compound one mistake with another" agenda. I"d agree normally, but feel that there isn"t enough FE here as well as the overs possibly not being outs, so still a fold for me
LongshanksED:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on July 08, 2010, 07:49:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on July 08, 2010, 07:14:23 AM ---
I agree villian bet small on the turn. But it"s your 280 to win 960. 3/1 on 1 street to come should still be enough to make you fold your straight draw. That said I"d gave called also.
Even if you hit your overcard, you dont know if one pair is good.
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folding the flop would be ridiculous with OESD and two overs. You played it fine because of opponents terrible/weak betsizing but against some opponents i would probably just raise/get it in on flop with stacks this shallow.
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Forget what I said. Made a complete balls of the pot size
Marty719:
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on July 08, 2010, 13:33:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Marty719 on July 08, 2010, 13:28:38 PM ---
If we call pre, folding this flop shouldn"t really be in our agenda.
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under the "dont compound one mistake with another" agenda. I"d agree normally, but feel that there isn"t enough FE here as well as the overs possibly not being outs, so still a fold for me
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I understand what u mean, but at this stage there is 680 in the pot and we have only have 1280 behind. There are def reasons for both folding and shoving, but I think shoving pros are pretty strong:
-It is a 6max sng which means we only really shoot for 1st in a top heavy pay structure.
-We can have as many as 14 outs, and almost always have a minimum of 8.
-There is also the chance we have the best hand against a weaker draw.
-I also think we def have some f/e and dnt think villain goes b/c all the time w/ 2nd pair type hands.
-1 more massively important point............we always have the Qc!!!
Swinebag:
I"m swayed, and mainly due to this
--- Quote from: Marty719 on July 08, 2010, 14:52:13 PM ---
-It is a 6max sng which means we only really shoot for 1st in a top heavy pay structure.
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