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S4 ENGLAND - WCOAP Team Championships
AMRN:
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someone will bite
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OK I"ll bite.
--- Quote from: AJDUK on July 21, 2010, 19:13:30 PM ---
I also believe that with such a large pool of talent to choose from it"s wrong to pick anyone that represented England last year, to represent England this year. i.e. a once every 2 years at most rule would be a fair way of giving more of the good players their chance.
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Personally I disagree. I represented my country last year, and have duly sent the captain a request for a place this year. I have based this on my recent performances and form. OK, not much APAT specific form at the moment, but then there hasn"t been too much APAT (live) opportunity for me yet this season, but my general poker form is miles ahead of where I was last year. That said, I did consider not applying as I didn"t want to put Brian in a difficult position given that he and I are friends, and no doubt some people will claim intentions are wrong if I were lucky enough to be selected. However I want this as badly as anyone else, so chose to go ahead with an application.
To state that English selection should be based on every second year only is plain wrong - Most other teams include many repeat selections year on year, and some teams are identical year on year - why should we be penalised for being English?
Given that the total player base of APAT is hugely biased toward England (~25%+?), it does not seem wrong to consider breaking England into North and South. That said, whilst providing fairer opportunity, it would dilute the patriotism angle.... there is only one England, and can therefore only be one England team.
Cyntaf:
Congratulations Brian, man for the job. Av a gud un, i c u there matey. :)
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 21, 2010, 21:38:44 PM ---
why should we be penalised for being English?
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True - you"ve suffered enough already.
AJDUK:
--- Quote from: AJDUK on July 21, 2010, 19:13:30 PM ---
I also believe that with such a large pool of talent to choose from it"s wrong to pick anyone that represented England last year, to represent England this year. i.e. a once every 2 years at most rule would be a fair way of giving more of the good players their chance.
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--- Quote from: AMRN on July 21, 2010, 21:38:44 PM ---
Personally I disagree.
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Of course you disagree Steve, that"s hardly le shock de la jour. But how disappointed would you be if you had been generally quite successful in APAT terms yet overlooked for someone who took their place last year? Wouldn"t that frustrate you slightly?
As for the other nations - yes some people are a shoe in because of numbers but that could be balanced by some nations having and A + B teams and perhaps having some of the smaller nations either combined or compete every two years depending on previous years placing - I dunno (just rambling ill thought out suggestions perhaps) but I believe something should be done to ensure that more of the top English guys get their chance to play in such a unique competition.
So my bottom line suggestion is either restrict appearances or give us a B team next season.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: AJDUK on July 21, 2010, 23:32:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: AJDUK on July 21, 2010, 19:13:30 PM ---
I also believe that with such a large pool of talent to choose from it"s wrong to pick anyone that represented England last year, to represent England this year. i.e. a once every 2 years at most rule would be a fair way of giving more of the good players their chance.
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--- Quote from: AMRN on July 21, 2010, 21:38:44 PM ---
Personally I disagree.
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Of course you disagree Steve, that"s hardly le shock de la jour. But how disappointed would you be if you had been generally quite successful in APAT terms yet overlooked for someone who took their place last year? Wouldn"t that frustrate you slightly?
As for the other nations - yes some people are a shoe in because of numbers but that could be balanced by some nations having and A + B teams and perhaps having some of the smaller nations either combined or compete every two years depending on previous years placing - I dunno (just rambling ill thought out suggestions perhaps) but I believe something should be done to ensure that more of the top English guys get their chance to play in such a unique competition.
So my bottom line suggestion is either restrict appearances or give us a B team next season.
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FWIW I have withdrawn my application. Personally I don"t see an issue - restricting selection because someone played the last game is something that happens at my 11 year old son"s cricket club - surprised people think it should happen at an international tournament event like this, but c"est la vie.... I would hate to be selected, and then find that I"m resented for it, or that Brian"s selection process is questioned.... Last thing I want to do is put Brian in any difficult situation, so to ease any pressures, I have taken myself out of his equation, and will focus on the other WCOAP events. Disappointed, but wish whoever does make the England team all the best.
England FTW
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