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S4 ENGLAND - WCOAP Team Championships
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: scouse3465 on August 04, 2010, 13:29:05 PM ---
Firsly i would like to say good luck to Bri and the England team , but want to have a little rant! which is my opinion and not a slur on Bri who had a very tough job to do!
I think for such a great oppurtunity and with a wealth of talent to pick from different players should get the chance to take on the rest of the world therefore steve and bri should have let other players have a chance and the honour of wearing the 3 lions. I think the other players who applied would have been capable of doing just as good a job. I realise there wasnt many applicants this surely must of been because they thought too many applicants not much chance etc. Also as a captain / manager surely you should be watching the other games weighing up the weak links or which of his players would fair better against other team members( obviously depending on how tourney run). So the responsibilty of the captainship is not compromised making game or decions as captain under extra pressure. And can solely concentrate on whats best for team.
I believe there is at least 15 england players who could easily do well with that little but of luck we all need, so why not give more of them a shot.
I still beleive England have a great team and a great chance of winnig it but would have just a good chance with fresh blood .
This is not me being bitter for not getting in by the way , i have texted bri and told him i was doing this and he has accepted my opinions like the top bloke and player he is .
Last but not least come on england !!
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I think Scouse should have gotten a place.
Making it easy for the rest of us . ;)
Mikeyboy9361:
England now have a quality team, and have a great chance of winning, and under Brians leadership I wouldn"t be in the least bit suprised if they did win it.
As regards Steve"s argument that there are many players who could do a good job and would love a crack, this is a tricky one, the captain is selected and then it is up to him to pick his best team a not just give other players ago. I actually feel that is what the other team event is for and that the "APAT" team should be made up of players who support APAT but haven"t had a look in elsewhere, but will that happen this year as they are defending the trophy? ???
scouse3465:
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on August 04, 2010, 13:43:44 PM ---
England now have a quality team, and have a great chance of winning, and under Brians leadership I wouldn"t be in the least bit suprised if they did win it.
As regards Steve"s argument that there are many players who could do a good job and would love a crack, this is a tricky one, the captain is selected and then it is up to him to pick his best team a not just give other players ago. I actually feel that is what the other team event is for and that the "APAT" team should be made up of players who support APAT but haven"t had a look in elsewhere, but will that happen this year as they are defending the trophy? ???
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mikey not sayin pick inferior players as i said there players just as good and with the luck / run of cards they would be just as strong if not stronger with the added prove apoint thinking
Roscopiko:
--- Quote from: scouse3465 on August 04, 2010, 13:29:05 PM ---
Firsly i would like to say good luck to Bri and the England team , but want to have a little rant! which is my opinion and not a slur on Bri who had a very tough job to do!
I think for such a great oppurtunity and with a wealth of talent to pick from different players should get the chance to take on the rest of the world therefore steve and bri should have let other players have a chance and the honour of wearing the 3 lions. I think the other players who applied would have been capable of doing just as good a job. I realise there wasnt many applicants this surely must of been because they thought too many applicants not much chance etc. Also as a captain / manager surely you should be watching the other games weighing up the weak links or which of his players would fair better against other team members( obviously depending on how tourney run). So the responsibilty of the captainship is not compromised making game or decions as captain under extra pressure. And can solely concentrate on whats best for team.
I believe there is at least 15 england players who could easily do well with that little but of luck we all need, so why not give more of them a shot.
I still beleive England have a great team and a great chance of winnig it but would have just a good chance with fresh blood .
This is not me being bitter for not getting in by the way , i have texted bri and told him i was doing this and he has accepted my opinions like the top bloke and player he is .
Last but not least come on england !!
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Pretty much agree with this.
Given the format is what it is for this tournament then the home nations will always struggle the most to satisfy the players.
As much as we might hate to admit it, due to the nature of the game on any given day any apat member can outperform any other so really who actually represents their country becomes pretty irrelevant.
I"d much rather see a more inclusive method of selection for each team than the captain decides as it will always be an influenced decision and instantly alienates some proportion of members.
Is there any reason that in future years members could not be chosen from either a single qualifying tournament, ballot or any other random method giving everyone the opportunity to play?
BOINGBLITZ:
Appreciate Scouse"s comments and as I have told him myself, leaving him out was difficult.
Both he and Dan Owston are extremely tough players to read and to play against and bring a mindset to the APAT tables that is matched by few others. They also bring a volume level matched by no others !!
I have huge respect for both of them and enjoy there company. I jush wish I could pick more than 4 in the team.
As for the selection process, as long as it is the same for every team, then maybe a tourney is the way to go and then appoint a non-playing Captain (as Scouse suggests) at a later date ?
Anyway, whoever or whatever criteria is used, we can never please everyone.....human nature.
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