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S4 WCOAP - Stud Event
TightEnd:
The Norwegian event was 3000 chips, 30 minute clock
We are going with Simon Trumper"s recommendation. Feel free to take it up with him/us when you get here!
redsimon:
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So 8 players all post 25 so 200 in pot. Low card brings in theres 225 in pot.. anyone not got odds to call?
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Ahhh...you have noted the beauty of Stud..it"s not about the odds like that, seriously.
Stud is all about not chasing even though you might think you have the odds. It"s about seeing what cards have already gone and NOT calling that single bet on the end even though your odds might be great.
Far too many people chase their supposed draws in Stud without paying attention to what others might have. Are you really chasing your gutshot straight even though you have only a 5% chance of hitting when the other guy is showing 3 or 4 cards to a flush?
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You beat me to it....
Please can I have Redsimon on my table ??
KTHX
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first player out bainn...
Paulie_D:
Here"s the thing...I"m out by the way, thanks for asking....it"s been running for 4 hours plus and we"re only down to 1/2 the field.
It"s arguable that there is much play left but it hasn"t been the car crash poker that was, perhaps, being prophesied.
Do I think that 6000 would have been better?...Of course, but you aren"t going to please everyone all the time. Could the structure be tweaked to improve it? Perhaps...(and I"ll have a think on that one) but, so far, I"ll chalk this one up as a result for APAT, regardless of my finish.
2c.
Paulie.
furnesspoker:
I had my initial reservations about the structure but it was a great event, to be honest 4000 was plenty of chips and as the blinds and antes increased I don"t think the extra 2k would have made much difference, I would also like to add the dealers did a terrific job on all the tables I was present, maybe next year you could add a 5 card stud event as well :)
Paulie_D:
I do think the structure can be improved upon....add more chips but increase the completion/BB sizes from the start
25 ante/bring in and 50/100 is just silly IMHO.
25/50 and 150/300 is arguably better (and somewhat more logical) and gives "proper" play but it does need a lot more chips to work.
Add to that the lack of...ahem...proper play..did make the first few levels somewhat of a crapshoot...it wasn"t until level 6 or 7 that the blind sizes were large enough to give people pause in calling with cr*p...but by then there were only around 200 BB spread amongst 20 or so players.
However, the competing interests of the venue wanting to run the event as quickly as possible vs. APAT wanting to showcase an extremely well structured event vs. a small player base is always going to be a hard one to balance.
Other issues also worked against a longer/better structure...3 APAT events on the same day, 2 DTD tourneys and cash games besides.
Understand, I"m not criticizing APAT, they have a lot on their plate in putting this lot on for us every year...and it"s not often you can event find a live Stud tourney anywhere so anything is better than nothing.
Stud I like (and like to think I can play..results aside ;D) but I don"t see myself entering next year if things remain the same.
PLO8 now...FTW in S5.
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