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KK tournaments first hand. Whats your move?
Swinebag:
Surely a raise to 2-2.5K is getting us pot committed, so we aren"t folding are we? An ace high flop kills the action against QQ,JJ hands that you would otherwise stack. You wouldn"t be folding on a Q or J hi flop where you could already be outdrawn so why the fold on a A hi flop?? Or better still...just shove
If we run into Aces, we"ve been coolered. Coolers, like bad beats, happen in poker and should be unavoidable. If we try and take lines that try and avoid coolers then we are not getting max value out of our hands and probably losing long term.
If the stacks were deeper and the clock slower then a more cautious line is acceptable, but not here
AMRN:
Shove it in, simplez.
With these stack sizes, calling is just bad, raising pre then folding the flop is awful - so your stack just has to go in at some point... may as well be preflop to maximize value from underpairs.
noble1:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on September 20, 2010, 18:29:29 PM ---
4B folding KK for 50% of our stack wud be the worst thing of all time.
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sorry marty just nit picking, u mean 5bet? :-X
--- Quote ---button who is never 4 betting light but can overplay small/medium pairs and AK/AQ makes it 800
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a little bit contradictory that shanks.. as per reads i"m in the ship it camp...
somrthing to get u thinking shanks :) - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=bluff_magazine&id=2817110
Mikeyboy9361:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on September 20, 2010, 18:29:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on September 20, 2010, 17:07:13 PM ---
Raise to 2500, and shove any flop that doesn"t include an Ace. If you get re popped, which would surely be a push, you can then re evaluate. Question asked and answered, but can you lay your Kings down, don"t think I could.
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4B folding KK for 50% of our stack wud be the worst thing of all time.
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TBH it depends what type and the quality of the tournament, if this was a typical pub league ( in which I play quite regularly) I would back myself to play my way back with 50% of my starting stack, from this early in the piece. But as I said I don"t think I could lay "em down.
deanp27:
splash your chips all over the table with excitement
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