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Building Huge Chip stacks
KingPoker:
Patience Patience Patience,
Best part of laz"s post was about keeping ur stack above or in line with the avergae chip stack, that to me is a hell of a lot more important than sitting with a mountain of chips. Personally what i aim for in any tourney is anywhere between 30-40 BB"s, im hugely comfortable in this slot and it allows me to make the occasional play but have more than enough in reserve to not put me at risk.
And also another important bit of advice is dont panic when shortstacked. I find that i play my best game when short stacked as thats when strategy becomes hugely important. When ur a big stack its a hell of a hard thing to remain a big stack.
And i play very hard around the bubble, no matter what my chip stack is, in APAT newcastle i was a big chip daddy but unfortunately the other 4 big chip daddies were also on my table so i was trying to double up through one of them to basically guarantee the final table placing but lost the crucial coin flip and was knocked out when i could have easily walked into the money. Would i do it again? Yes! everytime, because im always thinking about the win and not about doubling my return or paying for the weekned.
So to some up, sometimes it hugely important to be that hyper agressive player that you see with the chips, to gain a stack, but preferably save it for the later stages of the tourney, not at the start where you can"t win it, only lose it!
BioBlinx:
I like what KingPoker says about staying around the 30-40BB level, this would be a good aim. But I also find I have a hell of a lot of patience when shortstacked, I feel I can choose my spots well although sometimes I misjudge it :P.
Whats people"s opinions on the average stack amount? I personally don"t read too much into that as others seem to. A lot of people seem to have it as an important thing but I would much rather use Harrington"s M that he talks about in his books thank stressing over whether I"m near the average stack or not. Even though below average stack will put you shorter stacked relative to the field, if you can manage the blinds etc with your stack then I dont see too much of a problem?
The_rookie:
right here goes
"" A chip stack can be a fortress, a tool or a trap. It can bully the weak and shame the greedy.
It can force you into action when it dwindles or keep you out of trouble when it"s full-grown.
We play because inside every short stack there"s a large stack waiting to be born""
sorry but i love this line
AllanD23:
--- Quote from: BioBlinx on November 15, 2007, 23:31:41 PM ---
Whats people"s opinions on the average stack amount?
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lots of common sense in this thread that i don"t need to repeat but to add abit about average stacks...
if you"re on average stack in a tourney you"ll have more chips than the majority of players left in the tourney and you"re usually in not too bad shape relative to the blinds.
I should add that I do pay more attention to the blinds/antes than the average stack as obviously it only changes when someone gets knocked out so won"t neccessarily change on a hand by hand basis.
If there was 100 left and you had exactly average, you"d probably be in the range of 36th to 43rd in chips (rough figures). You also find the top 10-12 have big stacks and 1, 2 or sometimes 3 will have a humungous amount of chips.
You need to play a different game with a big stack and as laz says, you should expect huge swings in your stack size during earlier phases of the tourney as that"s the way you would need to be playing to get a huge stack in the first place, even changing gears doesn"t always seem to help. Gambling basically and although i love poker, i hate gambling :-) go figure... The big stacks do seem to bomb out quite often, even my home game the 2 big stacks at the break were first out last time...never even made the final table...needs a different game with a gearbox and clutch and stuff and a lot don"t seem to manage it.
So in summary, i"m not too bothered about gaining a huge stack (though I am always trying to gain chips lol) but do pay attention to M (blinds in relation to my stack) and average stacks etc.
A big stack won"t guarantee you winning the tourney but should get you a good few levels higher up the pay structure if you get it at the right time and then use it sensibly.
Don"t get me wrong though, if i end up with a big stack i"m not usually too upset about it ;D
Eck:
--- Quote from: AllanD23 on November 16, 2007, 20:29:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: BioBlinx on November 15, 2007, 23:31:41 PM ---
Whats people"s opinions on the average stack amount?
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even my home game the 2 big stacks at the break were first out last time...never even made the final table...
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That was a hell of a long winded post just to get a dig in :D
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