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Calling 'clock'

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jjandellis:
I personally will leave a player 5 minutes before calling clock, as this is what I would expect myself. Regardless of decision type/stage of game. Everyone has their own factors to weigh up.

If someone abused the time/constantly dallied then it may be another matter altogether.

Interestingly I have had really annoying clocks put on me in Germany.

The first was at the EPT, when the DEALER put the clock on me after less than a minute. I scoffed; he told me u have a minute to play as a local rule. I didn"t get a TD and made the decision but was fuming. It was only when a large number of BIG name players were subjected to this that it became apparent. The TD then quashed the "local ruling".

Recently I played a cash game. I had been thinking for 20 seconds and the guy called clock!!!!! I laughed at him and told him in English you cannot do that in a cash game. He told me otherwise. I laughed and told him what I thought of him. He ridiculed me in German, so, after the dealer backed him up I decided to have my fun. EVERY single time he dawdled more than 3 seconds I put clock on him for the rest of the evening :-)

Needless to say I don"t think he likes me...

KingPoker:
Personally im a patient guy and it doesnt bother me anyway but when i see its bothering other players I slow down then  ;D

I believe if its a 2 way pot then noone else should be allowed to have an influence on the way a hand plays out and that is exactly what calling the clock does. I certainly dont respect any players who regularly call for it.

Even if they are "Hollywooding" then why make it obvious to the rest? look for physical differences when he is disinterested in a hand and is just showboating and use it against him later on when he shows the same signs.

 

hi_am_chris:

Recently I played a cash game. I had been thinking for 20 seconds and the guy called clock!!!!! I laughed at him and told him in English you cannot do that in a cash game. He told me otherwise. I laughed and told him what I thought of him. He ridiculed me in German, so, after the dealer backed him up I decided to have my fun. EVERY single time he dawdled more than 3 seconds I put clock on him for the rest of the evening :-)

Needless to say I don"t think he likes me...
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Quality !!! lol

linziwan:
APAT rules clearly state that only the players involved in the hand are allowed to call for the clock. 

With the influx of Internet Players into the live game I think it has become more of a problem with the clock being called for more.  They are so used to only having such a short amount of time to react that they think live poker should be the same.  Even on line you get them typing ZZZZZZZZ when somebody takes their alloted time...

If you watch any of the poker on tv the pros" will take their time to make a decision and at times in a tournament you need the time to work out the odds etc as Kinboshi said.

Its easy for somebody to say "its an easy decision for you fold..." but they don"t know what you are holding or the history between you and the other player. 

When I have a decision to make I always tell the dealer that I need "Time".

Its not only in this country but it also happened to me in Vegas.  In a $500 buyin festival deepstack tournament at The Venetian.  I had been thinking for about 30 secs when I asked the dealer for "Time" within 2 secs a player not involved in the hand called for the clock.  I immediately got ansty with the player and told him he was well out of order that that I had asked for "time".  The tournament director was called and was not amused when he was informed that the clock had been called so quickly after I had asked for time.  He allowed me one minute before he started the clock.  I folded my hand more because I was so annoyed and couldn"t think properly than what I thought the other player had.  The other player showed me his hand and said it was a good fold but also said outloud that the other player was "out of order" for calling the clock so quickly.  Thankfully he didn"t last much longer.

So in summary I think it is always wise to tell the dealer you need "time".

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