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Critics: Anything I did wrong please?
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: GarethC on October 25, 2010, 16:19:00 PM ---
Where are you when the flop comes Axx? Winning against a big pair or crushed by AK/AQ?
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The very tight player will play his hand face up. If he"s uber-tight, is he going to be raising from EP with AQ?
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:30:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 16:10:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:00:07 PM ---
as soon as you have pegged him as a very tight player who happens to have the only stack at the table that can hurt you, why on earth do you want to get involved with a marginal raggy ace?
Insta-fold preflop!
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To give you the opportunity to stack him, an opportunity that is less likely with a loose player.
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but that"s only going to happen on a perfect flop - so you"re advocating calling with ATdd to try and hit a flush or straight, or some weird 2pair or trips hand...... surely a better hand to do that with would be something like 56s.... this hand is in danger of hitting the flop sideways and costing you a bunch of chips
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Hit the flop "sideways" and you don"t lose a bunch of chips. You don"t fall in love with the hand if you hit top pair.
With 56s I probably play it the same way as ATs.
Marty719:
--- Quote from: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 16:42:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:30:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 16:10:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:00:07 PM ---
as soon as you have pegged him as a very tight player who happens to have the only stack at the table that can hurt you, why on earth do you want to get involved with a marginal raggy ace?
Insta-fold preflop!
--- End quote ---
To give you the opportunity to stack him, an opportunity that is less likely with a loose player.
--- End quote ---
but that"s only going to happen on a perfect flop - so you"re advocating calling with ATdd to try and hit a flush or straight, or some weird 2pair or trips hand...... surely a better hand to do that with would be something like 56s.... this hand is in danger of hitting the flop sideways and costing you a bunch of chips
--- End quote ---
Hit the flop "sideways" and you don"t lose a bunch of chips. You don"t fall in love with the hand if you hit top pair.
With 56s I probably play it the same way as ATs.
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with 56s ur hand is less likely to be dominated, and we are not going broke w/ 1 pair.
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on October 25, 2010, 16:30:49 PM ---
I def think 3b is way better than flat kin. Firstly, we can win the pot there and then. If we get 4bet we have a very easy lay down. If we get flatted then at least we have the betting lead so will win on most flops. It saves us calling off in dominated spots.
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The caveat to my post was the the player is indeed tight, and is opening from EP. If that"s the case, what do you put him on? What percentage of the time is he going to 4-bet us? I think it"s too high.
If he calls, you want to be leading out on missed flop? He raised to 800 - what you planning on 3-betting to? He then calls and you have to put in fairish bet on the flop if you"re going to lead out. Too spewy by far for me.
--- Quote ---I cant see many pro"s to flatting, while 3b"n gives us a chance at winning the pot. How strong does our hand look 3b"n a "very tight player" from the sb!
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We can win the pot there an then with ATC, assuming he doesn"t have a monster hand. However, like I said - if we"re assuming he"s a very tight player and has opened from EP then it"s fair to assume he does indeed have a monster hand.
I don"t want to risk a fairly large chunk of chips trying to take down a relatively small pot when for far fewer chips I get a chance to take a lot of chips from a well-stacked player who will be playing his hand pretty much face up post flop.
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on October 25, 2010, 16:47:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 16:42:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:30:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on October 25, 2010, 16:10:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 25, 2010, 16:00:07 PM ---
as soon as you have pegged him as a very tight player who happens to have the only stack at the table that can hurt you, why on earth do you want to get involved with a marginal raggy ace?
Insta-fold preflop!
--- End quote ---
To give you the opportunity to stack him, an opportunity that is less likely with a loose player.
--- End quote ---
but that"s only going to happen on a perfect flop - so you"re advocating calling with ATdd to try and hit a flush or straight, or some weird 2pair or trips hand...... surely a better hand to do that with would be something like 56s.... this hand is in danger of hitting the flop sideways and costing you a bunch of chips
--- End quote ---
Hit the flop "sideways" and you don"t lose a bunch of chips. You don"t fall in love with the hand if you hit top pair.
With 56s I probably play it the same way as ATs.
--- End quote ---
with 56s ur hand is less likely to be dominated, and we are not going broke w/ 1 pair.
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Yes, if you"re going to go broke with one pair here - deffo fold.
Oh, and please play on my table.
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