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bigredders:
I think you defintely have to fold here. I didn"t mind the check on the flop, but the check on the turn is pretty horrible imo. The thing is he could be shoving thinking your raise stealing due to inactivity on previous streets but to call means you are hoping your winning rather than thinking your winning. It makes the river call a complete guess.
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on October 30, 2010, 00:45:00 AM ---
Yeh probs a raise/fold spot here. I can"t see him shoving worse here for value or bluffing against your table image
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He has no table image as these players have just arrived. Has to start from scratch with that. Although of course if they"ve played him before they"ll have an image from that, but otherwise he"s a random.
AMRN:
Here"s how it played out...
Preflop, I looked down at 88 and couldn"t decide whether to raise, limp, or fold. I had just doubled up, and got a preflop 3-bet through, and was feeling pretty good..... however was aware that despite having played tighter than a gnat"s chuff for six hours, the two new arrivals had been there for around 5 hands, of which I had played 2, and now I was attacking their blinds from UTG.... so I was wary of raising. However, I did count out a raise, managed to fumble my chips, then decided to limp :)
When trying to decide whether to call the river shove or not, part of my thought process was that I had shown no aggression during the hand at all, although I had visibly considered raising pre..... and with the indecision and fumble, I had probably shown huge weakness..... so I figured that if he is a thinking player, he may be putting my weakness to the test with this raise/shove. Of course, he might have QT or an overset, but in my opinion at the time, there was significant scope for him to be punishing me with air.
In the end, if I had a coin, I would have flipped and made the call based on the outcome. Without a coin to hand, I decided I would call if we were within 10 minutes of the next blind increase.... the clock showed less than 4 mins.... so I called.
He had QT. gg.
Pitchie:
--- Quote from: AMRN on November 01, 2010, 19:17:16 PM ---
In the end, if I had a coin, I would have flipped and made the call based on the outcome. Without a coin to hand, I decided I would call if we were within 10 minutes of the next blind increase.... the clock showed less than 4 mins.... so I called.
He had QT. gg.
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Overall, I think the biggest mistake in this hand was....
Not knowing when the next level began! :P
Paul.
WarBwastardo:
I remember this hand, sort of. I was there anyway, think I had just arrived, but I was thinking about biscuits at that time and lost my concentration. Was I the small blind in this hand? I think it was me. I think I didn"t get out of line because you"d limped UTG and because I was craving a ginger nut biscuit and a cup of tea.
Think the mistake was not betting the turn as you"re up against the blinds and we could have anything like. When you"re up against two blind hands against players you don"t know much about, you"re better off protecting your hand no? I mean it"s difficult to try and eek out value when you don"t know what you"re up against. Also as you say it"s a polarising bet...it"s not often a guy new to a table would decide to bluff in a spot like this the first hand he"s played at a new table.
Plus he probably knew you had played for your country and would be unlikely to have had the huevo"s to try and bluff such an internationally respected poker personality. Easy fold. Piece of piss fold actually. It"s like so easy my Nan could have found a fold here and she"s the most aggressive person I know cause she only eats bacon and whiskey.
Everyone slagged you off when you left as a matter of fact, they said it was the worst call they"d ever seen. The chap in the six seat actually had to back swallow some sick he was so appalled and one of the valets delivering a can of Redbull and a ham sandwich remarked on how shocking the bald fella played that hand.
Having said all that.....hmmmm bourbon creams
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