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Home game "arguement". Looking for advice

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Jon MW:
I think the sb should have either raised more pre flop - maybe even all in - or folded.

Once he missed the flop then an obvious continuation bet like that was always going to get at least called, so either a bigger bet - or much, much more sensibly a check fold would have been better.

Obviously knowing each other well the sb might have been able to put the bb"s all in as an outright bluff - but without prior knowledge I"m guessing it would have to mean at least bottom pair. If that"s the case then I still think a fold is right even with all the chips already invested - it just means you"re restricted to either pushing all in or folding until you get at least a double up.

All avoided if the sb had just shoved all in with the AK - then the J9 would have made the mistake if they"d called it.

WarBwastardo:
What was the buy-in?  As this was a home game I"d only really consider the most hideous of bad-beats as something to start throwing the twiglets around over.

What sort of game is it usually, what are playing styles and levels of ability? SB is probably thinking he"s 40% to win the hand if he puts BB on a jack so it"s not the worst of calls.

HaworthBantam:
Jon"s reply was much more eloquent than my own, and makes a lot of sense.

Waz1892:

--- Quote from: HaworthBantam on November 20, 2007, 20:01:07 PM ---


Not sure why the player with j9 went "mad". The player with AK must have had a valid reason for calling, and hitting an A on the turn or river to win the hand can hardly be considered a bad beat......

--- End quote ---


j9 reasoning was for going mad was that ak basically risked his tourney life on a gutshot draw and 2 overcards..and knowing he"d need to connect with turn or river to win

WarBwastardo:
So if BB thought the AK was in such bad shape he would probably have been begging for him to call if he could have seen his cards?  In which case he got what he was after and can"t really complain.  He"ll win in the long run tell him..he"ll like that.

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