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AAroddersAA:

--- Quote from: Marty719 on February 25, 2011, 16:30:12 PM ---

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 12:08:08 PM ---
Last night I got back from work, it was gone 10pm (I was supposed to finish at 8pm but there we go). I decided I was not tried so would play a little poker. about 2 minutes into the session get AA. Good so I raise from late position to £1.20 and get one caller from a player I consider to be a bit of a calling station but not too bad.

The flop came a very safe looking K-4-2 with two clubs. I bet out £3 into a pot of £2.75. He calls and I now have him on the king, or the draw (the king is more likely I think). Or he could be on some kind of under pair to the king I guess. The turn is a safe card and I bet £9 into a pot of £8.75, he again calls and the river is a 6, which be be fair completes a very unlikely str9 draw but the flush draw misses. I don"t think he is laying down a king so I shove and he calls. He obviously had K-6. GG £30.


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Betting less than full pot on the flop and turn will lead to you getting called by a wider range and therefore result in greater long-term profit.  If you think his range is Kx and underpairs, you want to bet an amount that will keep the entire range in.  With ur turn-betsizing, you pretty much discard air from your range (this betsize with air would be horrendous).  Reasonable villains will be folding all underpairs as well as the weaker Kx hands.

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To be fair I am pretty happy with how I played this hand. As previous hands I have posted show I rarely do this but felt this was a spot vs this opponent where I should. I would not play it differently. Although in most spots like this you are 100% correct.

MintTrav:

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 23:21:53 PM ---

--- Quote from: Marty719 on February 25, 2011, 16:30:12 PM ---

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 12:08:08 PM ---
Last night I got back from work, it was gone 10pm (I was supposed to finish at 8pm but there we go). I decided I was not tried so would play a little poker. about 2 minutes into the session get AA. Good so I raise from late position to £1.20 and get one caller from a player I consider to be a bit of a calling station but not too bad.

The flop came a very safe looking K-4-2 with two clubs. I bet out £3 into a pot of £2.75. He calls and I now have him on the king, or the draw (the king is more likely I think). Or he could be on some kind of under pair to the king I guess. The turn is a safe card and I bet £9 into a pot of £8.75, he again calls and the river is a 6, which be be fair completes a very unlikely str9 draw but the flush draw misses. I don"t think he is laying down a king so I shove and he calls. He obviously had K-6. GG £30.


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Betting less than full pot on the flop and turn will lead to you getting called by a wider range and therefore result in greater long-term profit.  If you think his range is Kx and underpairs, you want to bet an amount that will keep the entire range in.  With ur turn-betsizing, you pretty much discard air from your range (this betsize with air would be horrendous).  Reasonable villains will be folding all underpairs as well as the weaker Kx hands.

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To be fair I am pretty happy with how I played this hand. As previous hands I have posted show I rarely do this but felt this was a spot vs this opponent where I should. I would not play it differently. Although in most spots you are 00% correct.

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Be fair - he"s a bit higher than that.....

noble1:

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 23:21:53 PM ---

--- Quote from: Marty719 on February 25, 2011, 16:30:12 PM ---

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 12:08:08 PM ---
Last night I got back from work, it was gone 10pm (I was supposed to finish at 8pm but there we go). I decided I was not tried so would play a little poker. about 2 minutes into the session get AA. Good so I raise from late position to £1.20 and get one caller from a player I consider to be a bit of a calling station but not too bad.

The flop came a very safe looking K-4-2 with two clubs. I bet out £3 into a pot of £2.75. He calls and I now have him on the king, or the draw (the king is more likely I think). Or he could be on some kind of under pair to the king I guess. The turn is a safe card and I bet £9 into a pot of £8.75, he again calls and the river is a 6, which be be fair completes a very unlikely str9 draw but the flush draw misses. I don"t think he is laying down a king so I shove and he calls. He obviously had K-6. GG £30.


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Betting less than full pot on the flop and turn will lead to you getting called by a wider range and therefore result in greater long-term profit.  If you think his range is Kx and underpairs, you want to bet an amount that will keep the entire range in.  With ur turn-betsizing, you pretty much discard air from your range (this betsize with air would be horrendous).  Reasonable villains will be folding all underpairs as well as the weaker Kx hands.

--- End quote ---

To be fair I am pretty happy with how I played this hand. As previous hands I have posted show I rarely do this but felt this was a spot vs this opponent where I should. I would not play it differently. Although in most spots you are 00% correct.

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seems fine to me marty, he went with his read and adjusted his sizing to the player.. on the turn card when its an x and rodders reads it as not helping/improving the stations hand then you should bet as much as possible, like from how he describes whatever villain called on the flop he is more than likely calling the turn..
what u mention though marty is true when applied with or without reads,position,image,game flow,board texture etc
afterall though when playing stations the adjustment is to cut out the bluffing so rodders will never have [or rarely :)] an air range will he not?

interesting thoughts marty but it gets a tad more complex when adjusting to elastic or inelastic ranges, opponent types and various board textures....

ul river sir....

AAroddersAA:

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 23:21:53 PM ---

--- Quote from: Marty719 on February 25, 2011, 16:30:12 PM ---

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on February 25, 2011, 12:08:08 PM ---
Last night I got back from work, it was gone 10pm (I was supposed to finish at 8pm but there we go). I decided I was not tried so would play a little poker. about 2 minutes into the session get AA. Good so I raise from late position to £1.20 and get one caller from a player I consider to be a bit of a calling station but not too bad.

The flop came a very safe looking K-4-2 with two clubs. I bet out £3 into a pot of £2.75. He calls and I now have him on the king, or the draw (the king is more likely I think). Or he could be on some kind of under pair to the king I guess. The turn is a safe card and I bet £9 into a pot of £8.75, he again calls and the river is a 6, which be be fair completes a very unlikely str9 draw but the flush draw misses. I don"t think he is laying down a king so I shove and he calls. He obviously had K-6. GG £30.


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Betting less than full pot on the flop and turn will lead to you getting called by a wider range and therefore result in greater long-term profit.  If you think his range is Kx and underpairs, you want to bet an amount that will keep the entire range in.  With ur turn-betsizing, you pretty much discard air from your range (this betsize with air would be horrendous).  Reasonable villains will be folding all underpairs as well as the weaker Kx hands.

--- End quote ---

To be fair I am pretty happy with how I played this hand. As previous hands I have posted show I rarely do this but felt this was a spot vs this opponent where I should. I would not play it differently. Although in most spots you are 00% correct.

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lol That was meant to be 100% - edited

AAroddersAA:
Got back to being in profit again tonight for the year.

Online cash now = +£6.74 (wondering if it is all worth it lol)

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