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noble1:
i haven"t had time to catch up with all that"s in your blog Rodders, but after a quick scan of that hh :) i"ll give you 2 pointers that may help you...
ONE.
@25nl there are many opponents who will call the flop rather light, my spewy brother ;D has the mindset atm that they are stations so he basically dismisses the idea of ever bluffing them on any street... WRONG TOTALLY WRONG imho... Rodders look for spots/textures where a turn or river bluff will be profitable, look through your database for opponents who call flops light, when they do this they will have a significantly weaker range for the rest of the hand !! [true? do you agree?] with a read like this on these types you have much more fold equity than what most realise [after all there turn and river range will be mostly weak]....
Get into the habit of noting these types [yes even when multi tabling], just make sure to discern between the types who will call you down no matter how weak there hand is.. [note what size bets they call as well for obv reasons, that HH is rife with spewy types] note the fit/fold types also @25nl, obv your FE for bluffing them will be far less.. [there are plenty of them also :)]
TWO.
understand how to exploit others, to help yourself do this look through your database and go through the regs and learn there common tendencies... eg - the lines they take and how they react to differing textures, in that HH a river re-raise is mostly always for value for instance.. the HH also brings up a few spots where the reg/s 3bet and then check flop textures like 89Tssh, there range is mostly weak, look to exploit the buggers :)....
whilst going through others tendencies, look at your own also, by understanding how you play certain situations where you know that you can be exploited it will/should help you understand how to exploit others... [plus it may help you start to understand how they [the regs] think/view various spots]
i just felt you was missing a few spots in that HH.....
http://tworags.com/index.php?ACTION=charts&todo=view&ID=82 - this might help if your relying on HUD stats etc, use them by all means [along with good old fashion notes/reads :)] if you"re going to be tangling with the same mostly mediocre group of regs, the above points should help push your learning curve on Rodders...
basically abuse position and know your victims Rodders, they are making plenty of mistakes.. i"m not saying to suddenly start play LAG etc, just work on adding a few more tricks to your repertoire and observe like a serial killer :)
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AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: noble1 on January 07, 2012, 11:02:30 AM ---
i haven"t had time to catch up with all that"s in your blog Rodders, but after a quick scan of that hh :) i"ll give you 2 pointers that may help you...
ONE.
@25nl there are many opponents who will call the flop rather light, my spewy brother ;D has the mindset atm that they are stations so he basically dismisses the idea of ever bluffing them on any street... WRONG TOTALLY WRONG imho... Rodders look for spots/textures where a turn or river bluff will be profitable, look through your database for opponents who call flops light, when they do this they will have a significantly weaker range for the rest of the hand !! [true? do you agree?] with a read like this on these types you have much more fold equity than what most realise [after all there turn and river range will be mostly weak]....
Get into the habit of noting these types [yes even when multi tabling], just make sure to discern between the types who will call you down no matter how weak there hand is.. [note what size bets they call as well for obv reasons, that HH is rife with spewy types] note the fit/fold types also @25nl, obv your FE for bluffing them will be far less.. [there are plenty of them also :)]
TWO.
understand how to exploit others, to help yourself do this look through your database and go through the regs and learn there common tendencies... eg - the lines they take and how they react to differing textures, in that HH a river re-raise is mostly always for value for instance.. the HH also brings up a few spots where the reg/s 3bet and then check flop textures like 89Tssh, there range is mostly weak, look to exploit the buggers :)....
whilst going through others tendencies, look at your own also, by understanding how you play certain situations where you know that you can be exploited it will/should help you understand how to exploit others... [plus it may help you start to understand how they [the regs] think/view various spots]
i just felt you was missing a few spots in that HH.....
http://tworags.com/index.php?ACTION=charts&todo=view&ID=82 - this might help if your relying on HUD stats etc, use them by all means [along with good old fashion notes/reads :)] if you"re going to be tangling with the same mostly mediocre group of regs, the above points should help push your learning curve on Rodders...
basically abuse position and know your victims Rodders, they are making plenty of mistakes.. i"m not saying to suddenly start play LAG etc, just work on adding a few more tricks to your repertoire and observe like a serial killer :)
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Welcome back, hope you had a great time in Canada. Nice link there as to what percentages are likely to mean what with hand ranges. What would you say is a good hand range to be playing at $25 FR (VP$IP/PFR/3-Bet) and would you always open for a raise or can you limp with some hands?
I would agree with your point that people DO bluff, however I would say they are not USUALLY well thought out with a consistent story being told throughout the hand. Right or wrong? Really simple example of where regs will sometime bluff, if you bet the flop and check the turn in position with a marginal hand then you can often bluff catch a bet on the river from an opponent with nothing (yes it"s exploitable in some ways but trying to demonstrate a point). My player notes are very simple usually just like:-
"can bluff river if checked too"
"will float flop"
"can call down light on dangerous board"
"overplayed top pair"
Your advice on looking through hand histories for opponent who will try to exploit these spots (like the ones you mention that will call light on the flop) is well taken, I am spending more time looking through my tracker this year.. I probably rely on winning money from bad players to much and don"t exploit regs enough, I am working on this so keep the comments coming please (that also goes for Brendan (snapper) and anybody else who wants to chip in).
The only thing I would say that in a vacuum unless you have a reason to think otherwise assuming players always have what it looks like they have at $25nl is not going to be that bigger leak, and as long as you do the basics well you will be a winning player. I understand it"s not optimal though.
If you have spare time one day are you able to comment on the AK hand I commented where I shove into the Kings.
Also if we can get the cash game at DTD set up will you play? We could get a really good table going.
@Rob (Swinebag22)
Thanks for the advice there, always interested in the opinions of better MTT players on my play in these things as I also want to make an effort to improve my understanding of MTT play. I will post some more soon.
PS - Watching soccer AM, think I am becoming a Leyton Orient fan *lol*
noble1:
--- Quote ---I would agree with your point that people DO bluff
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re-read it again Rodders, you"ve mis-understood what i wrote..
--- Quote ---Your advice on looking through hand histories for opponent who will try to exploit these spots
--- End quote ---
no you have to look through your database and understand where and how the regs have exploitable tendencies @25nl..
BUT also look at your own, it will give [hopefully] you a feel/understanding of how your opponents think and view situations/board textures etc...
--- Quote ---What would you say is a good hand range to be playing at $25 FR (VP$IP/PFR/3-Bet) and would you always open for a raise or can you limp with some hands?
--- End quote ---
1. What would you say is a good hand range to be playing at $25 FR (VP$IP/PFR/3-Bet) - adjust to how the players to your left and right are playing imho... look to target the players that u will have position on if you think you can profit from them, rather than just solely playing your cards..
2. would you always open for a raise or can you limp with some hands? - opponent dependent, never say never, if you think the play is profitable then do it... mostly a raise is better than limping [obvious], there are spots i can think limping say 44 utg would be ok [can you think of a reason or two as of why?]
--- Quote ---"can bluff river if checked too"
"will float flop"
"can call down light on dangerous board"
"overplayed top pair"
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don"t take one example to literally though, if its a reg, ask yourself why did he make the play that he did, was he in a pot with a fishy type? did he make a adjustment? would he do that against you? etc etc
put a question mark against your note, update as u learn more about there tendencies [will they bluff often enough, what sizing, on what sort of board texture etc]
--- Quote ---I probably rely on winning money from bad players to much and don"t exploit regs enough
--- End quote ---
thats ok, i"d rather be in a pot with a bad player than a better one :)
but if you are looking to improve your win rate, build up your bankroll etc and then hoping to play higher stakes, you cannot just rely on table selection etc and bum hunt, you have to learn now at 25nl how to adjust and beat the regs because at 50nl 100nl the player pool will only get stronger..
AAroddersAA:
Quick session on cash tables today, did not go that well got KK into AA below.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/3950846
Next one, Never folding this even though I was not at all surprised to see AA here. I do wonder if I can save the bet on the turn here? Can I really fold the turn?
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/3950850
These both happened within about 10 minutes of starting so was down nearly a buyin quickly.
I then lose $6 with AQ when I raise to 7sc and get a call, flop comes queen high, I bet out $1.25, short stack shoves and I have to call, he has a set. The I get TT and reraise a MP opener to $2.25 only to have a full stacked player shove behind me. I havwe to fold (he had AA).
Add to this some pot"s where I raise, get called in multiple spots (don"t think I even found a good spot to cbet) and miss a couple of sets with pairs.
I win back a bit with AA wheer a 3-bet pre, bet the flop and take it down on the turn.
I then manage to make a terrible bluff after I raise in LP with 44 and call a 3-bet with good odds to set mine (well about 12/1). The flop misses my set and comes Ace hi, he checks to me so I take a shot at the pot, this is fine, he calls. The turn is a blank and he checks again so I put in a PSB, he then shoves. I don"t like my play here at all. So overall worst session of the year:-
Hands = 501
VP$IP = 11.98%
PFR = 9.78%
3Bet = 2.27%
Total loss = $48.83
BB/100 = -19.49
Bit annoyed to have lost around $60 over the last two days at cash which has dropped monthly profit to just $37. But this is still running above what I said the expectation was (3BB/100 - although I am starting to think that this needs to be nearer 5BB/100). These swings are completely normal I suppose and to be a winning player you have to accept it. I think orgetting about the money side of it is the key and accepting that it will take care of itself if you keep playing well.
Going to play some tournaments later today then maybe a small amount of hands tomorrow before having a break from poker until next weekend.
#swingsandrounderbouts
AAroddersAA:
Found £20 in my Sky account I had forgotten about quite felt like a little punt so popped off to the PLO tables to try and do an "unofficial" spin up with it. Spun it up to £110 which was nice. Will pay for entry into next weeks online APAT events. Now off to play some Stars tournaments. Will just edit this post later with results:-
Big $11 (or 700 FPP) 50K Gtd (gone AA < KK for a 9K pot 20 minutes in)
100 FPP 30K Gtd (AQ < 99)
$4.50 sit n go #1 (gone A9 < AK)
$4.50 sit n go #2 (88 < KK)
OK and now time to take a break from poker until next weekend :-)
Not a bad first week of the new year bottom line currently looks like this
NLHE Cash = +$37.39 (6504 Hands)
PLO Cash =+$15.22 (1002 hands)
Tournaments = +$94.79 (12 x 180 man and 1xBig $11)
Total Profit = $147.40
I would have taken that after one week. Good volume and good profit.
Tune in again next Saturday for more exciting updates including the Online APAT games.
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